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You're making the same mistake that everyone in this thread is afraid the cops are also making. A sound cannon is not a loudspeaker, it's a weapon. If you want

by ohazi 9y ago

You're making the same mistake that everyone in this thread is afraid the cops are also making. A sound cannon is not a loudspeaker, it's a weapon. If you want a loudspeaker, get a loudspeaker. This thing is designed to inflict actual, serious, permanent damage to people mechanically, from a large standoff distance. It's used to paralize combatants approaching a convoy. It shouldn't be used against crowds at home.

comex 9y ago
If you look at LRAD's product guide [1], they primarily describe their devices as being for "communication", not as a weapon. Now, they apparently can also output "deterrent tones", which are potentially dangerous - and I wouldn't be surprised if the product guide 'sugarcoats' things by focusing on non-offensive use cases. But it seems like a leap to claim that it's incapable of being used safely as a loudspeaker (which seems to have been the police's intent in the DC march). [1] https://www.lradx.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/LRAD-Product-Guide-9.15.pdf https://www.lradx.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/LRAD-Produc...
- zkms 9y ago
  That device is indeed for "communication" in the same way that a warning shot is a method of communication. This is not hyperbole, this is quite literally what the device was designed for, per the US military itself: "AHD is a non-lethal, counterpersonnel, long-range hailing and warning device capable of producing highly directional sound beams, allowing users to project warning tones and intelligible voice commands beyond small arms engagement range. This capability helps Soldiers more effectively determine the intent of a person, crowd, vessel, or vehicle at a safe distance, potentially deterring them prior to escalating to lethal force." (http://www.pica.army.mil/pmccs/combatmunitions/nonlethalsys/acoustichailingdev.html http://www.pica.army.mil/pmccs/combatmunitions/nonlethalsys/...) and "Acoustic Hailing Devices are designed to deny access into/out of an area to individuals, move individuals through an area, and suppress individuals." (http://jnlwp.defense.gov/Current-Non-Lethal-Weapons/Acoustic-Hailing-Devices/ http://jnlwp.defense.gov/Current-Non-Lethal-Weapons/Acoustic...) ("AHD" = "acoustic hailing device", the generic term for LRADs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_hailing_device#Origin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_hailing_device#Origin )

by ohazi 9y ago

comex 9y ago

If you look at LRAD's product guide [1], they primarily describe their devices as being for "communication", not as a weapon. Now, they apparently can also output "deterrent tones", which are potentially dangerous - and I wouldn't be surprised if the product guide 'sugarcoats' things by focusing on non-offensive use cases. But it seems like a leap to claim that it's incapable of being used safely as a loudspeaker (which seems to have been the police's intent in the DC march). [1] https://www.lradx.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/LRAD-Product-Guide-9.15.pdf https://www.lradx.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/LRAD-Produc...

zkms 9y ago
That device is indeed for "communication" in the same way that a warning shot is a method of communication. This is not hyperbole, this is quite literally what the device was designed for, per the US military itself: "AHD is a non-lethal, counterpersonnel, long-range hailing and warning device capable of producing highly directional sound beams, allowing users to project warning tones and intelligible voice commands beyond small arms engagement range. This capability helps Soldiers more effectively determine the intent of a person, crowd, vessel, or vehicle at a safe distance, potentially deterring them prior to escalating to lethal force." (http://www.pica.army.mil/pmccs/combatmunitions/nonlethalsys/acoustichailingdev.html http://www.pica.army.mil/pmccs/combatmunitions/nonlethalsys/...) and "Acoustic Hailing Devices are designed to deny access into/out of an area to individuals, move individuals through an area, and suppress individuals." (http://jnlwp.defense.gov/Current-Non-Lethal-Weapons/Acoustic-Hailing-Devices/ http://jnlwp.defense.gov/Current-Non-Lethal-Weapons/Acoustic...) ("AHD" = "acoustic hailing device", the generic term for LRADs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_hailing_device#Origin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_hailing_device#Origin )