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Is there no way, to just take a normal residential building, tear everything down inside except for the exterior walls and fill it with japanese sleep coffins?

Is there no way, to just take a normal residential building, tear everything down inside except for the exterior walls and fill it with japanese sleep coffins? Even if zoning laws would forbid this- life should find a way as they say.

ajmurmann 9y ago
That's a great idea, but please not in my neighborhood.
- aaronbwebber 9y ago
  Why not?
  - marnett 9y ago
    NIMBY.
tiredwired 9y ago
People will still complain about anything more expensive than living in a car or tent.
- throwaway2048 9y ago
  yeah, clearly these people are just whiners and shouldnt have any issue paying $4000 a month in rent for a single room appartment.
dsr_ 9y ago
Let's estimate it out. http://www.loopnet.com/california/san-francisco_apartment-buildings-for-sale/ http://www.loopnet.com/california/san-francisco_apartment-bu... 2950 21st Street is 4900 square feet and costs $3M. Right now it's 4 x 1200 square foot apartments, which go for about $45/square foot. Yowzers, that's $4500/month. Let's say you take each of the two floors and remodel them: two full bathrooms designed for shared tenancy, each coffin takes up 8 feet by 5 feet by 4 feet and you stack them two high, with 8 sqft of hallway and such added in. That's 48 sqft per coffin stack, so with perfect layout you get 100 coffin stacks. But you need room for bathrooms for 80+ people, and that means 8 stalls, 8 sinks, and 8 shower cubicles, taking up about 20% of the space. OK, your max occupancy is 80 where it used to be 16. The good news: you can charge as little as $250/month. If you spend enough on insulation you won't need to spend much on heat in the winter, but ventilation is going to be a problem. Nobody gets a parking space. Lice will be a problem. Cockroaches will be a problem. However, the issue that will get you the status of first slumlord to be sentenced to life in prison is fire safety.
- unabridged 9y ago
  I don't think fire safety is much of an issue anymore if you put in modern sprinkler systems.
- louithethrid 9y ago
  If you design it in such a way, that people can evacuate similar to airplanes? Basically every floor becomes a slide to safety outside? Also it doesent have to become slumy if its well organized. See the various capsule hotels in japan. If you up it to 300 $ you could have comon "living rooms". More interesting is, how would hide this from the neighbours? My suggestion: Have somebody drive a big truck into a garage regularly and basically be the shuttle service. Provide a set of two rooms near the front door - and a concierge actor using racism to provide a cover. Finally, a faked daily lightshow, behind the windows to provide the ilusion of ongoing normal life. This stealth hotel really would be a "hacking" -challenge: Next problems would be water and sewer system. Power supply and noiseless ventilation. My suggestion- create many false positives, to desensitize residents eveywhere to loud air conditioning. So for the hacked hostel to exist, one would need neighbours nearby who for money would allow a loudly humming installation (wifi-antenna) on there roof to exist.

ajmurmann 9y ago

That's a great idea, but please not in my neighborhood.

aaronbwebber 9y ago
Why not?
- marnett 9y ago
  NIMBY.

tiredwired 9y ago

People will still complain about anything more expensive than living in a car or tent.

throwaway2048 9y ago
yeah, clearly these people are just whiners and shouldnt have any issue paying $4000 a month in rent for a single room appartment.

dsr_ 9y ago

Let's estimate it out. http://www.loopnet.com/california/san-francisco_apartment-buildings-for-sale/ http://www.loopnet.com/california/san-francisco_apartment-bu... 2950 21st Street is 4900 square feet and costs $3M. Right now it's 4 x 1200 square foot apartments, which go for about $45/square foot. Yowzers, that's $4500/month. Let's say you take each of the two floors and remodel them: two full bathrooms designed for shared tenancy, each coffin takes up 8 feet by 5 feet by 4 feet and you stack them two high, with 8 sqft of hallway and such added in. That's 48 sqft per coffin stack, so with perfect layout you get 100 coffin stacks. But you need room for bathrooms for 80+ people, and that means 8 stalls, 8 sinks, and 8 shower cubicles, taking up about 20% of the space. OK, your max occupancy is 80 where it used to be 16. The good news: you can charge as little as $250/month. If you spend enough on insulation you won't need to spend much on heat in the winter, but ventilation is going to be a problem. Nobody gets a parking space. Lice will be a problem. Cockroaches will be a problem. However, the issue that will get you the status of first slumlord to be sentenced to life in prison is fire safety.

unabridged 9y ago
I don't think fire safety is much of an issue anymore if you put in modern sprinkler systems.
louithethrid 9y ago
If you design it in such a way, that people can evacuate similar to airplanes? Basically every floor becomes a slide to safety outside? Also it doesent have to become slumy if its well organized. See the various capsule hotels in japan. If you up it to 300 $ you could have comon "living rooms". More interesting is, how would hide this from the neighbours? My suggestion: Have somebody drive a big truck into a garage regularly and basically be the shuttle service. Provide a set of two rooms near the front door - and a concierge actor using racism to provide a cover. Finally, a faked daily lightshow, behind the windows to provide the ilusion of ongoing normal life. This stealth hotel really would be a "hacking" -challenge: Next problems would be water and sewer system. Power supply and noiseless ventilation. My suggestion- create many false positives, to desensitize residents eveywhere to loud air conditioning. So for the hacked hostel to exist, one would need neighbours nearby who for money would allow a loudly humming installation (wifi-antenna) on there roof to exist.