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> It is entirely possible that the unwillingness of the Lisp community to give up in this obscure terminology in favor of something more user friendly contribut
by kbp 9y ago
> It is entirely possible that the unwillingness of the Lisp community to give up in this obscure terminology in favor of something more user friendly contributed to its demise.
What more-user-friendly terminology do you suggest?
- lisper 9y agoDid you not read the upstream comments? FST and RST, or LHS and RHS depending on whether the intent is to access the cons as a linked list or a pair.
- kazinator 9y agoThe D in CDR already corresponds to "dexter-" (right); we just need "L" for "levo-": CLR: cell levo/left reference. CDR: cell dexter reference. Organic chemistry uses these letters and prefixes. E.g. "L-glutamine", "D-glucose" (a.k.a "dextrose"). The H and S (hand side) don't really contribute anything. (Yes, left is side and a hand).
- lisper 9y agoThe whole point of this exercise (if it has a point at all) is not to come up with acronyms with justifiable expansions, but to come up with something that is less newbie-bostile. I'm not sure CLR/CDR fits the bill any better than CAR/CDR. Part of the problem with CAR/CDR is that CAR is an English word that means automobile, and people get a little hung up on that when they first see it. Likewise, CLR is usually a shortened form of the word "clear". So I'm not sure that CLR/CDR is any better than CAR/CDR. One of the advantages of LHS/RHS and FST/RST is that none of those trigrams have any semantic baggage associated with them other than their intended meaning.
- kazinator 9y agoWhy trigrams: (cl x) (cr x). cell left, cell right. I don't think car and cdr are newbie hostile; they are rather troll-fertile.