You can ignore what people say and just look at the evidence, which in this case is pretty clear. Segwit made LN a lot easier, the software is here and working

You can ignore what people say and just look at the evidence, which in this case is pretty clear. Segwit made LN a lot easier, the software is here and working, the fact that they can send a) multihop tx's b) across multiple different clients is a substantial signal about the project's progress. And yeah, don't expect anyone to commit to a more concrete timeline than "in 2018 sometime" when folks like you hold them to it.