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A bit off topic, but what is this page doing, loading almost 500K in 2 XHR calls for approximately 9K of text... Egads, all the images are inlined data URIs! I

A bit off topic, but what is this page doing, loading almost 500K in 2 XHR calls for approximately 9K of text... Egads, all the images are inlined data URIs! I was staring at a blank page with a single image for over 10 seconds before the article text loaded. No loading indicator or anything.

spiznnx 9y ago
Thanks, I tried multiple browsers before I read your comment. It took 30s for me.
zeep 9y ago
took about 2 seconds for me but yeah, it almost feels like they are using huge web fonts with no default local fonts... (probably not the case because I usually disable web fonts)
Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
There's no reason for this content to use JavaScript at all. I'm going to start holding this up as an example of why browsers shouldn't have JavaScript at all - many developers simply don't understand when not to use it. Educating them one at a time won't fix it.
- Raphmedia 9y ago
  > There's no reason for this content to use JavaScript at all. How else would you add live comments without JS? This page is effectively a big chatroom. You can write at the bottom of the page and the website fetches the new messages async. Don't tell me you would have a big http refresh every 5 seconds to load in the new chat messages, that's even worst than using JS.
  - Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
    >How else would you add live comments without JS? This page is effectively a big chatroom. You can write at the bottom of the page and the website fetches the new messages async. Why on Earth does it need to be some kind of live chatroom? Just render them server-side and add live updates as a nice-to-have if JavaScript is enabled.
    - Raphmedia 9y ago
      > Why on Earth does it need to be some kind of live chatroom? Well, the website is called jiffchat.com and is a collection of chatrooms. That being said, I turned off JavaScript and you are right. The page gets stuck on a lazyload placeholder. The initial content should be loaded and only the chat part be should added by JS.
laresistance 9y ago
This is why I uploaded this as an image: https://i.imgur.com/gSLrqPl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/gSLrqPl.jpg I hate sites that require JS and are not viewable on archive.is or Wayback Machine.

spiznnx 9y ago

Thanks, I tried multiple browsers before I read your comment. It took 30s for me.

zeep 9y ago

took about 2 seconds for me but yeah, it almost feels like they are using huge web fonts with no default local fonts... (probably not the case because I usually disable web fonts)

Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago

There's no reason for this content to use JavaScript at all. I'm going to start holding this up as an example of why browsers shouldn't have JavaScript at all - many developers simply don't understand when not to use it. Educating them one at a time won't fix it.

Raphmedia 9y ago
> There's no reason for this content to use JavaScript at all. How else would you add live comments without JS? This page is effectively a big chatroom. You can write at the bottom of the page and the website fetches the new messages async. Don't tell me you would have a big http refresh every 5 seconds to load in the new chat messages, that's even worst than using JS.
- Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
  >How else would you add live comments without JS? This page is effectively a big chatroom. You can write at the bottom of the page and the website fetches the new messages async. Why on Earth does it need to be some kind of live chatroom? Just render them server-side and add live updates as a nice-to-have if JavaScript is enabled.
  - Raphmedia 9y ago
    > Why on Earth does it need to be some kind of live chatroom? Well, the website is called jiffchat.com and is a collection of chatrooms. That being said, I turned off JavaScript and you are right. The page gets stuck on a lazyload placeholder. The initial content should be loaded and only the chat part be should added by JS.

laresistance 9y ago

This is why I uploaded this as an image: https://i.imgur.com/gSLrqPl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/gSLrqPl.jpg I hate sites that require JS and are not viewable on archive.is or Wayback Machine.