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Everyone would... who could afford to. Now ask yourself what the majority who couldn’t afford it would do to protect and advantage their offspring. Gattaca is p

Everyone would... who could afford to. Now ask yourself what the majority who couldn’t afford it would do to protect and advantage their offspring. Gattaca is probably a fairly tale, and a nuclear wasteland the reality.

Danihan 9y ago
It's sadly ironic to me that a YCombinator commentator manages to be even more hyperbolic over gene therapy fear-mongering than an already very exaggerated message film. Disparities in IQ between people and groups are already massive and it's not causing nuclear war. Disparities over how much time and effort are put into raising offspring between classes are already massive. Again, we're still not going to war over it. How would you even envision a nuclear war like that taking place, when the highest IQ people are spread among many nation states and demographics? You should really try to tone back the over-the-top exterminist rhetoric and thinking, if only for your own well-being.
- QAPereo 9y ago
  That’s a lot of ad hominem noise to seemingly no signal all. Why?
- dang 9y ago
  Please don't get involved in ideological flamewars here. This is an ideological flamewar topic because the high ideological bit determines nearly everyone's position about it. That means the more people get into it, the more it turns into the same ideological flamewar that every other such topic leads to, and that's what we're most trying to avoid here. One can see this, for example, in how your comment begins to slide into personal disrespect and name-calling.
IncRnd 9y ago
Your comment seems intended to imply that parents of poor people will engage in nuclear war when rich parents engineer their children to have higher IQ scores. I doubt that scenario will come to pass.
- QAPereo 9y ago
  Not quite, it was more along the lines of another order of magnitude increase in inequality, which would be amplified with each passing generation. Not something you could hope to rise out of either, you’d be 100% born into it. Now, you might argue that birth already largely determine fate, but you’re talking about issues most of the world considers to be “luck”. A few billion people who can at least dream of a better life for their kids, won’t have that dream. I can’t imagine a more potent straw for the camel’s back, than rich people being able to engineer their children for health, strength, intelligence while everyone else is still beholden to chance. You’re talking about turning an underclass made from circumstances, into a permanent underclass that will be essentially inescapable and mount with each generation.

Danihan 9y ago

It's sadly ironic to me that a YCombinator commentator manages to be even more hyperbolic over gene therapy fear-mongering than an already very exaggerated message film. Disparities in IQ between people and groups are already massive and it's not causing nuclear war. Disparities over how much time and effort are put into raising offspring between classes are already massive. Again, we're still not going to war over it. How would you even envision a nuclear war like that taking place, when the highest IQ people are spread among many nation states and demographics? You should really try to tone back the over-the-top exterminist rhetoric and thinking, if only for your own well-being.

QAPereo 9y ago
That’s a lot of ad hominem noise to seemingly no signal all. Why?
dang 9y ago
Please don't get involved in ideological flamewars here. This is an ideological flamewar topic because the high ideological bit determines nearly everyone's position about it. That means the more people get into it, the more it turns into the same ideological flamewar that every other such topic leads to, and that's what we're most trying to avoid here. One can see this, for example, in how your comment begins to slide into personal disrespect and name-calling.

IncRnd 9y ago

Your comment seems intended to imply that parents of poor people will engage in nuclear war when rich parents engineer their children to have higher IQ scores. I doubt that scenario will come to pass.

QAPereo 9y ago
Not quite, it was more along the lines of another order of magnitude increase in inequality, which would be amplified with each passing generation. Not something you could hope to rise out of either, you’d be 100% born into it. Now, you might argue that birth already largely determine fate, but you’re talking about issues most of the world considers to be “luck”. A few billion people who can at least dream of a better life for their kids, won’t have that dream. I can’t imagine a more potent straw for the camel’s back, than rich people being able to engineer their children for health, strength, intelligence while everyone else is still beholden to chance. You’re talking about turning an underclass made from circumstances, into a permanent underclass that will be essentially inescapable and mount with each generation.