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Sorry for off-topic, this branch is gone out of hand. OK, No, instead, I'm teaching you how to preform an argument so other people can understand you well, rat
by rqs 9y ago
Sorry for off-topic, this branch is gone out of hand.
OK, No, instead, I'm teaching you how to preform an argument so other people can understand you well, rather than get yourself a brunch of down votes and nobody believes what you said.
It's very clear to me, most Chinese people didn't receive any proper training on how to make an argument that could yield good results. Everybody in the end is just ranting to each other without generating or putting out valuable information.
Unfortunately, you are among those who don't know how. For example, from your comment I quote:
> I assume you are a typical so-called westerner.
> Serpentza? I watched most of his videos, and found he is just a hypocritical racist ... he never communicate with the locals, and just live in his own circles ...
First of all, I consider myself Rational. You're welcome if you treat it as a synonym of 'westerner', I don't put it that way, however.
Secondly, be careful when you want make this kind of assumptions, because it's actually quite easy to be proved wrong.
For example, I could ask you what you mean by 'westerner', then you may answer "Chinese people who favors west ideology", then I can either say "No, I just rational" like what I just did to save my time, or, if I want to hook you up, I could just let you explain "What is west ideology?", after that, I can just simply put out a question "Can you point out any of my words up there which gives you that impression?" while knowing you can't.
About that video host, I don't think you knew hes personal life out of the camera do you? So how do you prove "he never communicate with the locals"? Especially when hes wife is a local Chinese.
I'm not ensuring you hes 100% correct, in fact some part of it is not. However, that video is good enough for people who interested on the topic, a informative watch for them.
To preform an good argument, one fundamental rule you need to know is it's required for you to show your respect, by correctly understanding what's your opponent is saying and their reason, and by putting out your reason of why your opponent were wrong if they did.
A high quality comprehensive comment will bring you likes, bad one will give you down votes. If you in a hurry, don't post anything until you have time to do so. Because you need time to research the problem.
And the reason of why there are a population limit, is not because what you said:
> Some stupid officers can make all kinds of ridiculous policies, sometimes the basic reason is just to consolidate their regime
You need to have some basic understanding on politics and history to provide a reasonable answer, don't assume our government are just made of a brunch of idiots, this will not make you look better.
In my point of view, the reason of limiting the population of those tier 1 cities is complex, simply put:
1, The government needs to found a way to limit how many resources (both nature and welfare) a single city can consume. Because of a lots of reason (geo location for example), the city cannot hold too many people. (Shanghai for example, relies heavily on piped and shipped natural gas[0], which is expensive and not a long-term solution)
2, Many cities in China is not well designed. When it needs to handle huge amount of population, problems (Pollution, traffic jam, security problem etc) will occur.
3, Tier 1 cities are sucking resources (Intelligent people, welfare, infrastructure etc) from other cities, makes them harder to grow.
However, I skeptical about such hard limit will hold, because it's too hard to implement (What? they want to install doors for every city?), and you just can't stop people from seeking better life. We'll see how it goes.
[0] http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-12/29/content_507756.htm http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-12/29/content_...
- jamesoo8 9y agoYou look ridiculous and arrogant to me. I am reluctant to write too much, it does not mean I cannot write well. I saw bunch of people like you, I assume you are a member from the vested interest groups of the CCP. I still can read out the typical stupid arrogance of such people between the lines you wrote.
- Eliezer 9y agoMost American people don't receive training on how to make valid arguments either. Maybe Israel...
- rqs 9y agoAmerican people do more or less received it. Ever been given an assignment that requires you dig through a whole library to prove a point? Or having to conclude a book all by yourself? There are lot's of critical thinking and reasoning involved there, because if you don't do that ahead of time, other people may criticize you and it's embarrassing. So, you actually received some of the training by doing those things. In China, the text book often concluded most of the things for student, so you end up just copying content from the book into your submission. And teachers will verify your submission by check whether or not you included the right content. Because of that, people lost many of chance to exercise their abilities of forming a sophisticated opinion.