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Yeah, never moving to America. Never. I value my life more than that. In Estonia (and I'd imagine most of Europe), the ambulance ride is free (unless you prank

Yeah, never moving to America. Never. I value my life more than that. In Estonia (and I'd imagine most of Europe), the ambulance ride is free (unless you prank call them, then you get a fine). The healthcare is free (paid by your employer), doesn't matter how badly you're injured. The only thing that's not free is dental care, but you can insure that, so you pay a monthly fee and they cover the actual cost if something happens. And no, it's not a made-up number.

dbancajas 9y ago
Is it a good place to live? What about racism etc?
- endisukaj 9y ago
  You'll be hard-pressed to find the sort of systematic racism found in the US (especially by institutions) anywhere in Europe. Sure, you might get the occasional glance if you are black especially in Eastern Europe and it's mostly because out of curiosity since there are not many African immigrants in ex-Communist countries as there are in, say, France. But other than that you'll be fine. I should say though that Eastern European countries do have issues with Islamophobia in general, so if you are muslim I would not recommend those countries.
  - bmmayer1 9y ago
    Have you ever been in a Parisian suburb?
  - chimeracoder 9y ago
    > You'll be hard-pressed to find the sort of systematic racism found in the US (especially by institutions) anywhere in Europe This ia really common misconception perpetuated by (white) Europeans. It couldn't be more wrong. Systemic racism is pervasive throughout Europe, and in many ways, it's even more institutionalized in Europe than it is in the US. Please stop spreading the myth that Europe is free of institutionalized racism, or even that it's somehow better in this regard than the US.
    - endisukaj 9y ago
      Do you have any proof for that? AFAIK the percentage of black people in prison in the EU is smaller than in the US for example. I know that this does not prove everything but it's one way to measure institutional racism which is kinda hard to measure in an objective way.
      - arcanus 9y ago
        https://www.apnews.com/e6ab521552b64a399f79a223d8006e5e/Racism-scars-European-soccer-with-sanctions-still-often-weak https://www.apnews.com/e6ab521552b64a399f79a223d8006e5e/Raci... European soccer games, for example, have had many examples of widespread racist chants and gestures. Racism is absolutely a problem in Europe.
        endisukaj 9y ago
        That's mostly football ultras[0] though. They are usually the lowest common denominator, it's like saying the US has issues with education because there are people who believe that the earth is flat. Besides, I did not say there's no racism in Europe, I said it's not institutionalized. I should also add that discrimination in European countries is based more along ethnic and nationalistic lines, not race or color the way it's in the US. While in the US people are categorized by their "race" (black, white, asian, middle eastern, etc), in Europe they are categorized by their country or geographical area of origin (Polish, Italian, French, English, Eastern European, Western European, etc). A black English guy is not primarily "black", he is primarily English. It's also quite interesting how US-centric this website is and how patriotic most of you are. [0](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultras https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultras)
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        nofilter 9y ago
        I totally agree that discrimination is done by geographical area of origin instead of colour of skin. Lots of Estonians have an axe to grind with Russians (due to history), but I don't know of any other people that we tend to dislike. Perhaps British guys that come here to get drunk and yell and piss all over the streets, but I'm sure that's a problem most everywhere.
- nofilter 9y ago
  As far as I know most people are just curious (I saw my first black person when I was 11 years old, so yeah, mostly white country). There is racism, sure, especially in less-developed parts of the country, but most people just keep to themselves and don't ever express their racism. I also don't know of anyone below 30 to be racist. It's mostly old people from the soviet times (where there were virtually no people other than of colour white around). As far as is it a good place to live, well, it's cold (but very tech-advanced). Check out https://e-estonia.com/ https://e-estonia.com/
dullgiulio 9y ago
In Estonia you have to pay for non-serious visits to the ER. How much was it, 5 euro?
- nofilter 9y ago
  Yes, 5 euros at the registry if you can't wait for your family doctor to make time for you.

dbancajas 9y ago

Is it a good place to live? What about racism etc?

endisukaj 9y ago
You'll be hard-pressed to find the sort of systematic racism found in the US (especially by institutions) anywhere in Europe. Sure, you might get the occasional glance if you are black especially in Eastern Europe and it's mostly because out of curiosity since there are not many African immigrants in ex-Communist countries as there are in, say, France. But other than that you'll be fine. I should say though that Eastern European countries do have issues with Islamophobia in general, so if you are muslim I would not recommend those countries.
- bmmayer1 9y ago
  Have you ever been in a Parisian suburb?
- chimeracoder 9y ago
  > You'll be hard-pressed to find the sort of systematic racism found in the US (especially by institutions) anywhere in Europe This ia really common misconception perpetuated by (white) Europeans. It couldn't be more wrong. Systemic racism is pervasive throughout Europe, and in many ways, it's even more institutionalized in Europe than it is in the US. Please stop spreading the myth that Europe is free of institutionalized racism, or even that it's somehow better in this regard than the US.
  - endisukaj 9y ago
    Do you have any proof for that? AFAIK the percentage of black people in prison in the EU is smaller than in the US for example. I know that this does not prove everything but it's one way to measure institutional racism which is kinda hard to measure in an objective way.
    - arcanus 9y ago
      https://www.apnews.com/e6ab521552b64a399f79a223d8006e5e/Racism-scars-European-soccer-with-sanctions-still-often-weak https://www.apnews.com/e6ab521552b64a399f79a223d8006e5e/Raci... European soccer games, for example, have had many examples of widespread racist chants and gestures. Racism is absolutely a problem in Europe.
      - endisukaj 9y ago
        That's mostly football ultras[0] though. They are usually the lowest common denominator, it's like saying the US has issues with education because there are people who believe that the earth is flat. Besides, I did not say there's no racism in Europe, I said it's not institutionalized. I should also add that discrimination in European countries is based more along ethnic and nationalistic lines, not race or color the way it's in the US. While in the US people are categorized by their "race" (black, white, asian, middle eastern, etc), in Europe they are categorized by their country or geographical area of origin (Polish, Italian, French, English, Eastern European, Western European, etc). A black English guy is not primarily "black", he is primarily English. It's also quite interesting how US-centric this website is and how patriotic most of you are. [0](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultras https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultras)
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        nofilter 9y ago
        I totally agree that discrimination is done by geographical area of origin instead of colour of skin. Lots of Estonians have an axe to grind with Russians (due to history), but I don't know of any other people that we tend to dislike. Perhaps British guys that come here to get drunk and yell and piss all over the streets, but I'm sure that's a problem most everywhere.
nofilter 9y ago
As far as I know most people are just curious (I saw my first black person when I was 11 years old, so yeah, mostly white country). There is racism, sure, especially in less-developed parts of the country, but most people just keep to themselves and don't ever express their racism. I also don't know of anyone below 30 to be racist. It's mostly old people from the soviet times (where there were virtually no people other than of colour white around). As far as is it a good place to live, well, it's cold (but very tech-advanced). Check out https://e-estonia.com/ https://e-estonia.com/

dullgiulio 9y ago

In Estonia you have to pay for non-serious visits to the ER. How much was it, 5 euro?

nofilter 9y ago
Yes, 5 euros at the registry if you can't wait for your family doctor to make time for you.