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Thanks for the references. I was referring to who did a large _volume of traffic_ in this type of distributed node first on a _global scale_ - not who did it /

by pavs 9y ago

Thanks for the references. I was referring to who did a large _volume of traffic_ in this type of distributed node first on a _global scale_ - not who did it / patented it first. Most importantly, outside the North-American/Europe echo chamber Netflix is a blip (a large blip nonetheless) compare to google/facebook/Akamai (probably even Cloudflare) traffic. I don't say this to undermine what Netflix does both as a service and a Network Engineering standpoint - I am personally a big fan of their service and their tech blog - I was trying to make a point on some info mentioned in the blog. I am sorry if I wasn't able to express my point properly.

Terretta 9y ago
> I was referring to who did a large _volume of traffic_ in this type of distributed node first on a _global scale_ - not who did it / patented it first. I am too. For example, even back then we did live streaming events of millions of simultaneous viewers and billions of on-demand streams a month, from petabytes of content in 14 datacenters globally (including Southeast Asia). All before Netflix, Google, Facebook. Akamai and most of the top CDNs were clients. > Outside NA/EU echo chamber Netflix is a blip... Netflix is very much playing outside ‘the echo chamber’: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/a20138/netflix-interview-wired-traffic-exceeds-internet-capacity/ http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/a20138/netflix-in... And growing: http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/netflix-250-million-hours-1202010393/ http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/netflix-250-million-hou... If you have stats that show they are ‘a blip’ in traffic volume globally, please share. > I was trying to make a point on some info in the blog By continuing to insist Netflix is “a blip”, and offering no definition of what you mean by large scale, or why you’re so sure Google is doing video delivery networking better, I’m finding it difficult to have a substantive discussion. PS. You started an ISP in Southeast Asia, and looks like you had Google/Akamai footprint for your ISP. So maybe your ‘blip’ assertion is your ISP data? From the provider point of view, different ISPs (even in US) had very different viewing patterns. Without looking into individual ISPs, we guessed this related to median connection speeds, peering headroom, and localized content/viewing preferences.

by pavs 9y ago

Terretta 9y ago

> I was referring to who did a large _volume of traffic_ in this type of distributed node first on a _global scale_ - not who did it / patented it first. I am too. For example, even back then we did live streaming events of millions of simultaneous viewers and billions of on-demand streams a month, from petabytes of content in 14 datacenters globally (including Southeast Asia). All before Netflix, Google, Facebook. Akamai and most of the top CDNs were clients. > Outside NA/EU echo chamber Netflix is a blip... Netflix is very much playing outside ‘the echo chamber’: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/a20138/netflix-interview-wired-traffic-exceeds-internet-capacity/ http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/a20138/netflix-in... And growing: http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/netflix-250-million-hours-1202010393/ http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/netflix-250-million-hou... If you have stats that show they are ‘a blip’ in traffic volume globally, please share. > I was trying to make a point on some info in the blog By continuing to insist Netflix is “a blip”, and offering no definition of what you mean by large scale, or why you’re so sure Google is doing video delivery networking better, I’m finding it difficult to have a substantive discussion. PS. You started an ISP in Southeast Asia, and looks like you had Google/Akamai footprint for your ISP. So maybe your ‘blip’ assertion is your ISP data? From the provider point of view, different ISPs (even in US) had very different viewing patterns. Without looking into individual ISPs, we guessed this related to median connection speeds, peering headroom, and localized content/viewing preferences.