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so how mature is this tech? is this really feasible? writing browser client code in rust?

by mlevental 9y ago

pohl 9y ago
I think stewed was announced about 8 months ago.
- pohl 9y ago
  stewed -> stdweb Thanks, autocorrect.
  - ComputerGuru 9y ago
    Yesterday, I learned that the correct term for that is “autoincorrect” thanks to HN.
makmanalp 9y ago
If you can write frontend code in typescript or elm, why not rust indeed?
- kibibu 9y ago
  Those transpile to JS though, not Web Assembly, don't they?
  - TuringTest 9y ago
    Javascript and Web Assembly are expected to run on the same engine, if I'm not mistaken.
steveklabnik 9y ago
The biggest holdout is non-Edge IE https://caniuse.com/#search=wasm https://caniuse.com/#search=wasm The story with Rust compiling to it is still younger; it works well at the moment, but is very fiddly. The early adopters and enthusiasts are working on making it all smoother. So for most people, it's still a bit young. Just depends on your temperament.
- tomatsu 9y ago
  > The biggest holdout is non-Edge IE IE is discontinued. IE11, which was released back in 2013, only gets security-related updates. It's on life support. IE11 part of Windows 10 which EOLs in 2020 (mainstream) or 2025 (extended).
  - zacmps 9y ago
    Unfortunately not everyone stops using a project as soon as it is discontinued.
  - kevin_thibedeau 9y ago
    The problem is that MS won't port Edge to Win7.
    - therockhead 9y ago
      Why is that? Latest versions of Chrome and Firefox work fine on Windows 7 , so they have real competition in this area.
      - psquid 9y ago
        Same reasons that IE versions only support certain versions of Windows: - they want to be able to switch to newer APIs when the underlying OS adds them (though in Edge's case it's more likely it was written from the ground up using newer APIs) - they quite possibly want to use "you can get the new browser only if you upgrade" as a carrot for OS upgrades (they explicitly did with IE, I haven't seen anything explicit for Edge but it wouldn't surprise me if they're still taking that approach)
  - leeoniya 9y ago
    we still have 7.6% IE11 ecommerce traffic which converts very well (US, home remodeling). it does appear to be declining ~0.2% per month, but it's a long way off from dead :(
    - 9y ago

so how mature is this tech? is this really feasible? writing browser client code in rust?

pohl 9y ago

I think stewed was announced about 8 months ago.

pohl 9y ago
stewed -> stdweb Thanks, autocorrect.
- ComputerGuru 9y ago
  Yesterday, I learned that the correct term for that is “autoincorrect” thanks to HN.

makmanalp 9y ago

If you can write frontend code in typescript or elm, why not rust indeed?

kibibu 9y ago
Those transpile to JS though, not Web Assembly, don't they?
- TuringTest 9y ago
  Javascript and Web Assembly are expected to run on the same engine, if I'm not mistaken.

steveklabnik 9y ago

The biggest holdout is non-Edge IE https://caniuse.com/#search=wasm https://caniuse.com/#search=wasm The story with Rust compiling to it is still younger; it works well at the moment, but is very fiddly. The early adopters and enthusiasts are working on making it all smoother. So for most people, it's still a bit young. Just depends on your temperament.

tomatsu 9y ago
> The biggest holdout is non-Edge IE IE is discontinued. IE11, which was released back in 2013, only gets security-related updates. It's on life support. IE11 part of Windows 10 which EOLs in 2020 (mainstream) or 2025 (extended).
- zacmps 9y ago
  Unfortunately not everyone stops using a project as soon as it is discontinued.
- kevin_thibedeau 9y ago
  The problem is that MS won't port Edge to Win7.
  - therockhead 9y ago
    Why is that? Latest versions of Chrome and Firefox work fine on Windows 7 , so they have real competition in this area.
    - psquid 9y ago
      Same reasons that IE versions only support certain versions of Windows: - they want to be able to switch to newer APIs when the underlying OS adds them (though in Edge's case it's more likely it was written from the ground up using newer APIs) - they quite possibly want to use "you can get the new browser only if you upgrade" as a carrot for OS upgrades (they explicitly did with IE, I haven't seen anything explicit for Edge but it wouldn't surprise me if they're still taking that approach)
- leeoniya 9y ago
  we still have 7.6% IE11 ecommerce traffic which converts very well (US, home remodeling). it does appear to be declining ~0.2% per month, but it's a long way off from dead :(
  - 9y ago