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Let's do a first principles analysis. If alien's were present here in biological form, having superior intelligence capabilities, they would have already taken
by nisten 9y ago
Let's do a first principles analysis.
If alien's were present here in biological form, having superior intelligence capabilities, they would have already taken control of us. Given the stupid amount of pollution we keep outputting to the planet, this is definitely not the case. There's no intelligent alien life here because it's still us in control.
Could it be an alien drone though? Yes.
If it was it means it came here either by a lightsail, or some other sub-lightspeed travel technology. Or it was dropped through blackwhole or something and it just showed up.
If it teleported here, then it probably has next level quantum tech and whatever. It could've teleported back a signal, taken over all communications and they would have already physically taken over our planet. So that's not likely the case, unless the drone is just capable of surviving faster than light travel but is still limited by the same physical problems in integrated circuits and power generations that we already know.
Okay.Now, if it traveled at sub-lightspeed it's likely to have taken at least a few thousand light years at minimum ( given by our observation of what planets are close to us ) to get here. More likely a few hundred thousand.
That means another few hundred thousand to send a signal back.
In that case that they would try to colonize us before we get too powerful, by sending a colony ship or something, which would take even more time. We're likely to go extinct on our own before that happens so there's no point worrying about aliens.
This is assuming that they've reached the same physical limits in technology that we have. Those being the speed of travel limit, and quantum computing not being Turing complete. Meaning this drone can not break cryptography, or run an overpowering AI that takes over all our communications and controls us.
- badcede 9y ago"they would have already taken control of us" This assumes that they would be just like humans, and only the rapacious ones at that.
- nisten 9y agoThink of it this way, if us humans were technologically capable of taking over their planet, we would very likely do so. Unless we completely edit out past warmongering from our gene pool. Therefore their only logical choice would be to stop us from getting capable enough to do that. Right?
- jotm 9y agoWhy are some people obsessed with aliens conquering Earth? If you have the technology to do interstellar flight, surely you have advanced refining/processing tech, and you can get raw materials anywhere - the other planets and asteroid belt nearby are full of everything. You probably have robots to do all your work, too. There's no need to enslave some species to make them work for you or risk losing anything in a potential fight (pretty sure even advanced aliens would be wary of nuclear weapons) or deal with gravity/atmospheric/natural conditions of this planet for some resources that can be found elsewhere. If anything (as we kind of learned by now), dealing via peaceful means would be way more productive. Just provide some high tech or rare minerals and we'll gladly mine the shit out of the planet ourselves.
- krapp 9y agoWhich does beg the question, assuming UFOs are aliens, why do they seem to only be here? Why aren't they also mining Jupiter and Titan, or colonizing Mars or something?
- nisten 9y agoIf they study our past signals they will see that we've knowingly caused the extinctions of other living beings and frequently make even our species suffer. Which means, in the event that we get technologically capable enough to reach another planet with intelligent life, we're very likely to do the same thing to them. Therefore the only logical choice for that alien civilization are to either try and take control of our planet or just outright wipe us out. No?
- brango 9y agoIf life is common in the universe they'd be pretty busy. Maybe resources are plentiful and there's no need or they have no desire to conquer us. Your "first principle" is a complete assumption.
- nisten 9y agoEven if it is common, it's very likely that nearly all intelligent life is heavily limited to sub-lightspeed travel, therefore most civilizations won't be able to expand that much, therefore having livable planets close-by is a precious commodity.
- nisten 9y agoHowever common, life in the universe is very likely constrained within the limits of the speed of light. So you can't just assume that they have plenty of other livable planets to just throw around.