> Geh, in reality the Mac didn't get an operating system in the true sense of the word Indeed. Apple's operating systems were completely outclassed by Windows

> Geh, in reality the Mac didn't get an operating system in the true sense of the word Indeed. Apple's operating systems were completely outclassed by Windows 95, AmigaOS and BeOS (and by that I mean both at the OS level and also the GUI). Even the "merger" of NeXt and Apple didn't give Apple a credible OS for many years after that. This is why I can't help chuckle when I read comments such as "Lisa was programmed with planned obsolescence because it couldn't support years past 1995". This is not planned obsolescence, it's just incompetence from Apple's software engineers. Back then, Apple was a lot better at product and hardware than software. And when I see iTunes, I still think it's still kind of true today.