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Citation Needed, please. The most basic approach for responding to a change in data is to compare the previous and current props in the `componentWillReceivePr

Citation Needed, please. The most basic approach for responding to a change in data is to compare the previous and current props in the `componentWillReceiveProps` or `componentDidUpdate` lifecycle methods. Meanwhile, Redux is the most common state management library used with React apps. You certainly _can_ use MobX, RxJS, or some other FRP-type library with React, but to claim that "the whole ecosystem is heavily tied to them" is simply wrong, and shows a gross misunderstanding of the React world.

baybal2 9y ago
>but to claim that "the whole ecosystem is heavily tied to them" is simply wrong, and shows a gross misunderstanding of the React world. May be, but this is how it looks from my part of the world, which is Russia or China when I am doing term contracts there from time to time. Here, the so called "software evangelists", apparently paid or hired by FB, swarm tech events to lecture people on how to do "10 tricks to transform your eCommerce business with Agile management, and FLUX pattern". And they get pretty annoying. My experience with React ends with my interaction with them and doing basic demos for recruitment interviews. I have not yet heard of a FRP-framework-free React site being considered norm for a "serious project" here. Just like those FB "evangelists" do today, Angular proponents were doing the same 5 years ago with their maxim: "the magic provider/factory/service pattern is the new best thing since a sliced bread" without elaborating much why. That lead to many mentally-infirm developers trying to shove it everywhere, making usage of Angular ecosystem without zealous following of that pattern impossible. I have impression that the same is happening with FRP-everywhere crowd and React. If this isn't how it is, I am glad.
- acemarke 9y ago
  I certainly don't claim to know everything that goes on in the React ecosystem (especially outside the US), but I _am_ pretty tuned in with the major trends and discussions that are going on, and I've seen plenty of real-world React applications and codebases. None of that matches anything I've seen thus far. I have never heard of Facebook paying "software evangelists". I suppose it's possible, but it really doesn't match with what I know about how Facebook develops and uses React.

baybal2 9y ago

>but to claim that "the whole ecosystem is heavily tied to them" is simply wrong, and shows a gross misunderstanding of the React world. May be, but this is how it looks from my part of the world, which is Russia or China when I am doing term contracts there from time to time. Here, the so called "software evangelists", apparently paid or hired by FB, swarm tech events to lecture people on how to do "10 tricks to transform your eCommerce business with Agile management, and FLUX pattern". And they get pretty annoying. My experience with React ends with my interaction with them and doing basic demos for recruitment interviews. I have not yet heard of a FRP-framework-free React site being considered norm for a "serious project" here. Just like those FB "evangelists" do today, Angular proponents were doing the same 5 years ago with their maxim: "the magic provider/factory/service pattern is the new best thing since a sliced bread" without elaborating much why. That lead to many mentally-infirm developers trying to shove it everywhere, making usage of Angular ecosystem without zealous following of that pattern impossible. I have impression that the same is happening with FRP-everywhere crowd and React. If this isn't how it is, I am glad.

acemarke 9y ago
I certainly don't claim to know everything that goes on in the React ecosystem (especially outside the US), but I _am_ pretty tuned in with the major trends and discussions that are going on, and I've seen plenty of real-world React applications and codebases. None of that matches anything I've seen thus far. I have never heard of Facebook paying "software evangelists". I suppose it's possible, but it really doesn't match with what I know about how Facebook develops and uses React.