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the resignation duel,” in which the employee senses an issue and wants to be the first one to draw their weapon. Article assumes the only reason anyone resigns

by gaius 9y ago

the resignation duel,” in which the employee senses an issue and wants to be the first one to draw their weapon. Article assumes the only reason anyone resigns is to pre-empt being fired. What about better offers, or unrelated reasons like a partner relocation? In the UK and Europe a 3-month notice period for key or senior engineers is not unusual.

downrightmike 9y ago
Most places in the US exist in an At-Will or Right to Work state, people can walk out and be fired without notice. Companies fought hard for this and they got it. The 2 weeks is just a courtesy, I've seen people walk in Monday and hand in a piece of paper that was back dated 2 weeks and walkout the door.
- pkaye 9y ago
  I've seen people leave without even a notice. Gone one day and no indication afterwards. The employer is just worried that nothing bad happened to that person.
leoedin 9y ago
I've never had less than a 1 month notice period in the UK. And if you walked out in less than that, you'd be in violation of your contract and potentially could be taken to court. However, the flipside is that usually your employer has the same notice period. A sudden termination for anything less than gross negligence is very rare and usually followed by an employment tribunal.
volgo 9y ago
I'm confused why people care about this. What's the difference between getting fired and you just resigning? HR departments don't disclose why you left the company, so the only negative is psychological and social. Logically, at least when you're fired you get a nice severance
- gaius 9y ago
  Logically, at least when you're fired you get a nice severance Well there is a difference between getting fired and being made redundant
mnm1 9y ago
You can have similar contracts in the US, but employers hate that here so we don't. Thus neither side owes the other side anything and we are at a point where giving notice at all in many cases is the worst thing an employee can do. This is the situation employers have fought for. When I put it that way, the article becomes even more disgusting, trying to place a duty on outgoing employees that is not reciprocated by employers at all. No, if the two or four week notice period is not legally agreed to in the contract, employers have no reasonable expectation that anyone should give it. And if it wasn't to avoid burning bridges, I'd never give it. Hell, half the time the bridges are so weak, it's worth burning them behind you. But that's employment culture in the US these days.

by gaius 9y ago

downrightmike 9y ago

Most places in the US exist in an At-Will or Right to Work state, people can walk out and be fired without notice. Companies fought hard for this and they got it. The 2 weeks is just a courtesy, I've seen people walk in Monday and hand in a piece of paper that was back dated 2 weeks and walkout the door.

pkaye 9y ago
I've seen people leave without even a notice. Gone one day and no indication afterwards. The employer is just worried that nothing bad happened to that person.

leoedin 9y ago

I've never had less than a 1 month notice period in the UK. And if you walked out in less than that, you'd be in violation of your contract and potentially could be taken to court. However, the flipside is that usually your employer has the same notice period. A sudden termination for anything less than gross negligence is very rare and usually followed by an employment tribunal.

volgo 9y ago

I'm confused why people care about this. What's the difference between getting fired and you just resigning? HR departments don't disclose why you left the company, so the only negative is psychological and social. Logically, at least when you're fired you get a nice severance

gaius 9y ago
Logically, at least when you're fired you get a nice severance Well there is a difference between getting fired and being made redundant

mnm1 9y ago

You can have similar contracts in the US, but employers hate that here so we don't. Thus neither side owes the other side anything and we are at a point where giving notice at all in many cases is the worst thing an employee can do. This is the situation employers have fought for. When I put it that way, the article becomes even more disgusting, trying to place a duty on outgoing employees that is not reciprocated by employers at all. No, if the two or four week notice period is not legally agreed to in the contract, employers have no reasonable expectation that anyone should give it. And if it wasn't to avoid burning bridges, I'd never give it. Hell, half the time the bridges are so weak, it's worth burning them behind you. But that's employment culture in the US these days.