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Yet these old folks all voted for trump/GOP. Good luck trying to make a living when they cut social security next year.

dizzystar 9y ago
Sigh... the voting data is out there, and let's not all pretend the poor are any better off after ACA took effect. Clinton won the poor, Trump won the rich. When will you all stop with this?
- SubiculumCode 9y ago
  My parents finally have health insurance after ACA, so yeah, they ARE better off.
  - dizzystar 9y ago
    I recently worked in two restaurants. Everyone was part time because no one wanted to employ full time. No one had insurance. On of my coworkers ended up in the hospital. She was taken on then dropped by 4 insurance companies, this was directly after she lost her military coverage. She's 15k in debt working a job that pays $200/week. I can toss a lot more stories back at you if you want.
    - ec109685 9y ago
      Why didn’t your coworker enroll in a ACA program?
      - dizzystar 9y ago
        She was covered under military, then she was enrolled in ACA, then dropped multiple times.
        mwfunk 9y ago
        How do does one get involuntarily booted from coverage provided by the ACA? Or did she voluntarily drop coverage? If the latter, that’s 100% on her, but if the former then that seems like it should be impossible and I’m very curious how it happened, that doesn’t make sense but then again neither does health insurance sometimes. :(
        suppressingfire 9y ago
        Could be that the plans or companies offering coverage in her region have changed from year to year? While I wouldn't call this being "dropped" others might. Another possibility could be due to fraudulence during the application process? But yeah, grabbing at straws here.
        SubiculumCode 9y ago
        Pre-existing condition laws would have stopped this. Unless more info provided,I call FUD
    - chrisbennet 9y ago
      Are you implying that she would have had insurance before the ACA? Before the ACA, you could get "cheap" insurance, but it was often a scam. I know because I discovered that the hard way. Pre-existing conditions are a thing.
sumedh 9y ago
They voted for Trump because he was saying he is going to bring back jobs while Clinton was not exactly sure what her platform was. If I am a 50 year man who lost his job, I am going to vote for Trump. It is just amazing that lot of people including you and Clinton don't understand this simple point.
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- aaomidi 9y ago
  Oh we do. It's just saying you're going to do something vs actually doing it is much different. It surprises me that Trump supporters can't see beyond words. Hopefully after these four years you will understand that jobs are going to be going away. There is essentially no way to move time backwards to when technology was at its infancy and there were hundreds of jobs. Instead of supporting candidates who give people a false hope of steel jobs think about different systems to support everyone in the upcoming job armageddon.
  - dominotw 9y ago
    > think about different systems to support everyone in the upcoming job armageddon. Would have been nice if the opposite side articulated what exactly that they were thinking of doing or at-least some vague idea would have been nice. Repeatedly saying "most qualified in the history to run as president" is not very convincing.
  - sumedh 9y ago
    I am not a Trump supporter, I am not even American, I am just a neutral observer so I can see things without the tribe mentality. > It surprises me that Trump supporters can't see beyond words. What was the alternative, Clinton was not sure what her platform was and I agree with you, some of her words were very clear, calling the Trump voter a deplorable. That is not how you win elections. If you are a 50 year old guy who worked hard all his life and then lost his job because the factory went to China are you going to vote for a guy who says he will bring back jobs or are you going to vote for a lady who could not figure out what exactly was her message (yet was in the news for her controversies) and calling you a deplorable. The choice is simple you will vote for the guy who says he will bring back jobs. Saying Trump is all words is not the argument you can make when the general public have been hearing empty words from establishment politics for many years and yet making deals to ship their jobs overseas.

Sigh... the voting data is out there, and let's not all pretend the poor are any better off after ACA took effect. Clinton won the poor, Trump won the rich. When will you all stop with this?

SubiculumCode 9y ago
My parents finally have health insurance after ACA, so yeah, they ARE better off.
- dizzystar 9y ago
  I recently worked in two restaurants. Everyone was part time because no one wanted to employ full time. No one had insurance. On of my coworkers ended up in the hospital. She was taken on then dropped by 4 insurance companies, this was directly after she lost her military coverage. She's 15k in debt working a job that pays $200/week. I can toss a lot more stories back at you if you want.
  - ec109685 9y ago
    Why didn’t your coworker enroll in a ACA program?
    - dizzystar 9y ago
      She was covered under military, then she was enrolled in ACA, then dropped multiple times.
      - mwfunk 9y ago
        How do does one get involuntarily booted from coverage provided by the ACA? Or did she voluntarily drop coverage? If the latter, that’s 100% on her, but if the former then that seems like it should be impossible and I’m very curious how it happened, that doesn’t make sense but then again neither does health insurance sometimes. :(
        suppressingfire 9y ago
        Could be that the plans or companies offering coverage in her region have changed from year to year? While I wouldn't call this being "dropped" others might. Another possibility could be due to fraudulence during the application process? But yeah, grabbing at straws here.
      - SubiculumCode 9y ago
        Pre-existing condition laws would have stopped this. Unless more info provided,I call FUD
  - chrisbennet 9y ago
    Are you implying that she would have had insurance before the ACA? Before the ACA, you could get "cheap" insurance, but it was often a scam. I know because I discovered that the hard way. Pre-existing conditions are a thing.

sumedh 9y ago

They voted for Trump because he was saying he is going to bring back jobs while Clinton was not exactly sure what her platform was. If I am a 50 year man who lost his job, I am going to vote for Trump. It is just amazing that lot of people including you and Clinton don't understand this simple point.

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aaomidi 9y ago
Oh we do. It's just saying you're going to do something vs actually doing it is much different. It surprises me that Trump supporters can't see beyond words. Hopefully after these four years you will understand that jobs are going to be going away. There is essentially no way to move time backwards to when technology was at its infancy and there were hundreds of jobs. Instead of supporting candidates who give people a false hope of steel jobs think about different systems to support everyone in the upcoming job armageddon.
- dominotw 9y ago
  > think about different systems to support everyone in the upcoming job armageddon. Would have been nice if the opposite side articulated what exactly that they were thinking of doing or at-least some vague idea would have been nice. Repeatedly saying "most qualified in the history to run as president" is not very convincing.
- sumedh 9y ago
  I am not a Trump supporter, I am not even American, I am just a neutral observer so I can see things without the tribe mentality. > It surprises me that Trump supporters can't see beyond words. What was the alternative, Clinton was not sure what her platform was and I agree with you, some of her words were very clear, calling the Trump voter a deplorable. That is not how you win elections. If you are a 50 year old guy who worked hard all his life and then lost his job because the factory went to China are you going to vote for a guy who says he will bring back jobs or are you going to vote for a lady who could not figure out what exactly was her message (yet was in the news for her controversies) and calling you a deplorable. The choice is simple you will vote for the guy who says he will bring back jobs. Saying Trump is all words is not the argument you can make when the general public have been hearing empty words from establishment politics for many years and yet making deals to ship their jobs overseas.