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"If the rest of the world thinks Gaddafi was toppled because he gave up his nukes, then it’s true" This is not what the world thinks. Gaddafi was not about to

"If the rest of the world thinks Gaddafi was toppled because he gave up his nukes, then it’s true" This is not what the world thinks. Gaddafi was not about to obtain nuclear status - not even close. There's no way he would have been allowed to anyhow. Libya is a fairly small country, smaller than Chicago, fragmented, spread apart, with no industry other than some oil. North Korea is not remotely comparable to Libya - I don't think the North Koreans see a true analogy.

Tannic 9y ago
If by some oil you mean the largest supply of sweet crude in Africa and within very short shipping distance to the west, then yes they had some oil. And there is ample evidence the US was spearheading the ‘civil war’ using armed mercenary armies like ISIS much in the same fashion we have been seeing in Syria, both of which were outlined in the neoliberal imperialist war plan that Wesley Clarke outlined and which began full fledged after 9/11.
Pica_soO 9y ago
I think the north Koreans see that any state opposing a major force in recent history got pushed over and trampled upon for oil and various reasons. Well except for Pakistan. Pakistan is a ally. Does not even have to export oil to be one. Okay, it has al quaida hide outs - but it is a really good friend. Loyal, as long as the bri- the budget doesn't run out. Totally different from afghanistan. Another great country, that totally does not get pushed around comes to mind. Israel. Surrounded by enemys, with some really nasty wars in its recent history- that suddenly stopped. Or India, dear god, that country was fractured and ripe for the taking- and yet, suddenly its independence is well respected- just like it is by all those companies and foreign powers in africa. I wonder why.(not) Delusional Intentions do not equal good outcomes, just because they timewise correlated.
- alexasmyths 9y ago
  "a major force in recent history got pushed over and trampled upon for oil " This is ridiculous. The US didn't take a drop of Iraqi, Kuwaiti or Libyan Oil. The US could take all the Oil in the Middle East in a heartbeat if it wanted to. This whole 'war for Oil' bit is mostly rubbish. 'War for continued access to energy' yes - but the us is not grabbing resources with military power, moreover, North Korea has nothing anyone wants.

Tannic 9y ago

If by some oil you mean the largest supply of sweet crude in Africa and within very short shipping distance to the west, then yes they had some oil. And there is ample evidence the US was spearheading the ‘civil war’ using armed mercenary armies like ISIS much in the same fashion we have been seeing in Syria, both of which were outlined in the neoliberal imperialist war plan that Wesley Clarke outlined and which began full fledged after 9/11.

Pica_soO 9y ago

I think the north Koreans see that any state opposing a major force in recent history got pushed over and trampled upon for oil and various reasons. Well except for Pakistan. Pakistan is a ally. Does not even have to export oil to be one. Okay, it has al quaida hide outs - but it is a really good friend. Loyal, as long as the bri- the budget doesn't run out. Totally different from afghanistan. Another great country, that totally does not get pushed around comes to mind. Israel. Surrounded by enemys, with some really nasty wars in its recent history- that suddenly stopped. Or India, dear god, that country was fractured and ripe for the taking- and yet, suddenly its independence is well respected- just like it is by all those companies and foreign powers in africa. I wonder why.(not) Delusional Intentions do not equal good outcomes, just because they timewise correlated.

alexasmyths 9y ago
"a major force in recent history got pushed over and trampled upon for oil " This is ridiculous. The US didn't take a drop of Iraqi, Kuwaiti or Libyan Oil. The US could take all the Oil in the Middle East in a heartbeat if it wanted to. This whole 'war for Oil' bit is mostly rubbish. 'War for continued access to energy' yes - but the us is not grabbing resources with military power, moreover, North Korea has nothing anyone wants.