I sure that's right. Also I should add that while I was never a Lift fan, it did get the job done, and worked reasonably well for the limited stuff I needed to

I sure that's right. Also I should add that while I was never a Lift fan, it did get the job done, and worked reasonably well for the limited stuff I needed to do on that project. It's just the best example I can draw on from personal experience. I think it's illustrative of problems I've seen with functional programming "in the small" in JavaScript, Java, and numerous online examples in a variety of languages.