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The co-founder of Vice started a alt-right white boy club[1], which was pretty shocking to be honest. It did make me stop watching Vice & Vice News altogether.

by pwaai 9y ago

The co-founder of Vice started a alt-right white boy club[1], which was pretty shocking to be honest. It did make me stop watching Vice & Vice News altogether. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_McInnes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_McInnes

dominotw 9y ago
I think they've done a 180 since he left though.
eropple 9y ago
McInnes is a racist, misogynistic shitheel for sure, but he also left in 2008. Since, Vice has become an outlet that does objectively good stuff with its reporting and its specialist media--I love Waypoint, I have a friend there whose moral compass is beyond reproach as far as I am concerned, and I have zero doubt that that friend wouldn't be there if they weren't convinced of the place. Near as I can tell, Vice is an outlet that escaped its asshole founder and gone past his goals. Should probably be commended for that (while at the same time expected to clean house when confronted with meritorious allegations).
- michaelbuckbee 9y ago
  Not sure why you're being downvoted. Austin Walker (current editor in chief for Waypoint - Vice's Video Games site) is the walking antithesis of an alt-right bro. It is a good question though: how long do you hold an organization responsible for someone or for their collective actions?
  - malvosenior 9y ago
    > Austin Walker (current editor in chief for Waypoint - Vice's Video Games site) is the walking antithesis of an alt-right bro. What does being left wing or right wing have to do with anything? We’re talking about sexual harassment, not politics. The majority if the recent high profile cases have been democrats doing the harassment btw.
    - adamson 9y ago
      Read two posts above you. We were talking about how one of the founders is a public racist, but how Vice's current editorial approach seems to have move passed that. I don't think it's controversial that sexual misconduct is persistent across the political spectrum.
      - malvosenior 9y ago
        Yes, Vice is extremely left wing. They apparently also commit a good deal of sexual harassment internally if this article is to be believed. Not sure what the founder who left (and his politics) well before any of the alleged offenses has to do with anything.
    - archagon 9y ago
      Alt-right is way beyond right wing. Chances are high that if you label yourself alt-right, you're also drinking the sweet red pill poison.
      - collyw 9y ago
        I see quite the opposite. Everyone who as much as questions an over the top left wing stance is labeled as alt-right these days.
    - ajmurmann 9y ago
      The discussion thread you are responding to was about one of the founders starting "a alt-right white boy club".
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rsynnott 9y ago
> The group takes its name from the showtune "Proud of Your Boy," a song introduced in the 2011 stage-show version of Disney's Aladdin If not for the references, I’d be _sure_ that this was a parody/Wikipedia prank. Bizarre.

by pwaai 9y ago

dominotw 9y ago

I think they've done a 180 since he left though.

eropple 9y ago

McInnes is a racist, misogynistic shitheel for sure, but he also left in 2008. Since, Vice has become an outlet that does objectively good stuff with its reporting and its specialist media--I love Waypoint, I have a friend there whose moral compass is beyond reproach as far as I am concerned, and I have zero doubt that that friend wouldn't be there if they weren't convinced of the place. Near as I can tell, Vice is an outlet that escaped its asshole founder and gone past his goals. Should probably be commended for that (while at the same time expected to clean house when confronted with meritorious allegations).

michaelbuckbee 9y ago
Not sure why you're being downvoted. Austin Walker (current editor in chief for Waypoint - Vice's Video Games site) is the walking antithesis of an alt-right bro. It is a good question though: how long do you hold an organization responsible for someone or for their collective actions?
- malvosenior 9y ago
  > Austin Walker (current editor in chief for Waypoint - Vice's Video Games site) is the walking antithesis of an alt-right bro. What does being left wing or right wing have to do with anything? We’re talking about sexual harassment, not politics. The majority if the recent high profile cases have been democrats doing the harassment btw.
  - adamson 9y ago
    Read two posts above you. We were talking about how one of the founders is a public racist, but how Vice's current editorial approach seems to have move passed that. I don't think it's controversial that sexual misconduct is persistent across the political spectrum.
    - malvosenior 9y ago
      Yes, Vice is extremely left wing. They apparently also commit a good deal of sexual harassment internally if this article is to be believed. Not sure what the founder who left (and his politics) well before any of the alleged offenses has to do with anything.
  - archagon 9y ago
    Alt-right is way beyond right wing. Chances are high that if you label yourself alt-right, you're also drinking the sweet red pill poison.
    - collyw 9y ago
      I see quite the opposite. Everyone who as much as questions an over the top left wing stance is labeled as alt-right these days.
  - ajmurmann 9y ago
    The discussion thread you are responding to was about one of the founders starting "a alt-right white boy club".

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rsynnott 9y ago

> The group takes its name from the showtune "Proud of Your Boy," a song introduced in the 2011 stage-show version of Disney's Aladdin If not for the references, I’d be _sure_ that this was a parody/Wikipedia prank. Bizarre.