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Your example reads like a programmer wrote it instead of a consultant. - Would not expect to see a "such as" in statement of work in the locations you used the

Your example reads like a programmer wrote it instead of a consultant. - Would not expect to see a "such as" in statement of work in the locations you used them. - Would not expect typos in statement of work. - Consultant will push commits to source control.. I have other employees to code, I would pay an consultant to consult. Define strategy, architecture, coach. Not type code, you are way too expensive for that. Are you taking yourself serious? What I read is a freelance software engineer.

kirubakaran 9y ago
Thanks for the feedback. Could you point me to the typos please? I'd like to fix them.
- bastijn 9y ago
  Noticed the word "design" was written as "degsin".
  - kirubakaran 9y ago
    > Noticed the word "design" was written as "degsin". It isn't. For reference: https://web.archive.org/web/20170927012427/https://kirubakaran.com/blog/consulting-sow/ https://web.archive.org/web/20170927012427/https://kirubakar...
    - bastijn 9y ago
      It is, though it was desgin not degsin. "desgin assets such as color palette and images to be used". Under 1.3. Also in your reference.
      - kirubakaran 9y ago
        Great, thanks! Fixed now.
putnam 9y ago
Do consultants never code?
- bastijn 9y ago
  I replied above, it depends on the level of the consultant. Never say never. For a five figure a week consultant I would say it is not the first priority.
- dboreham 9y ago
  They can code. "Consultant" doesn't mean much. May as well say "Dude we hired to do XXX".
  - bastijn 9y ago
    That would be a contractor or contingency worker for me. They are hired to do X. When they leave their work stops, a critical difference with a consultant. Consultant does mean something. Means you temporarily hire experience in a field you are not familiar with to bring competency to your company, train/knowledge transfer to employees, and have a quick up ramping of a project which can continue when the consultant leaves because now you have a proper architecture and your employees are trained to use it, work with and extend it.
mgkimsal 9y ago
For a single person, it's often both. Personally, there are projects where I'm more a 'freelance software engineer' - someone else is managing the project, working with the end client to determine goals, dates, etc. Someone else did sales and defined the outcomes, etc. I'm a pair of hands. In other cases, I'm doing more of that other work - actually 'consulting' - meeting with people, helping determine strategy/direction, etc - then sometimes managing the project and/or doing some code (if code is needed, and usually is).
gvsmith 9y ago
Except in the real world (also at Google) the people who "type the code" also do the actual design work. I quess Perelman was also just "typing a proof". The amount of clueless people here is astonishing.
- kirubakaran 9y ago
  Hey, just fyi, this comment was flagged to death but I vouched for it to undo that, as I think you mean well and you make good points. I'm guessing the flaggers were reacting to the "clueless people" line.
- bastijn 9y ago
  I consider Google a rare breed. Make no mistake, I absolutely love companies where software engineering is understood by the exco as first (and only) class citizen. The real world is a matter of location and experience I guess. Silicon valley would not be my example of the real world. My experience is more companies see consultants as not another developer. They already have their architects and engineers to do just that. People typing code as their first commitment, stating they will commit code to archive in their core statement of work, do not scale. I'd rather have a consultant using his experience to teach my 100 developers what to make and commit to the archive. Have his experience, mind and vision executed by 100 people. That scales. That is worth the 5 (6,7) figures I pay him. If he can only work as hard as at most 2, or heck 5 of my developers I'd rather hire that at a fraction of the price. Note that this thread was on consultants that ask 5 figures a week. I took that as upper half end of the 5 figures. Entry level consultants coming at 85-150€ an hour (in EU) are a different story. They would be seen as an architect with experience outside the company and as of such would most likely code and design like a regular architect. Not all are clueless I guess. Just people from all over the world and from all sorts of companies. P.s. Only have experience with enterprise consultancy. After writing I realize this may be entirely different from consultancy in/for a small sized firm.

kirubakaran 9y ago

Thanks for the feedback. Could you point me to the typos please? I'd like to fix them.

bastijn 9y ago
Noticed the word "design" was written as "degsin".
- kirubakaran 9y ago
  > Noticed the word "design" was written as "degsin". It isn't. For reference: https://web.archive.org/web/20170927012427/https://kirubakaran.com/blog/consulting-sow/ https://web.archive.org/web/20170927012427/https://kirubakar...
  - bastijn 9y ago
    It is, though it was desgin not degsin. "desgin assets such as color palette and images to be used". Under 1.3. Also in your reference.
    - kirubakaran 9y ago
      Great, thanks! Fixed now.

putnam 9y ago

Do consultants never code?

bastijn 9y ago
I replied above, it depends on the level of the consultant. Never say never. For a five figure a week consultant I would say it is not the first priority.
dboreham 9y ago
They can code. "Consultant" doesn't mean much. May as well say "Dude we hired to do XXX".
- bastijn 9y ago
  That would be a contractor or contingency worker for me. They are hired to do X. When they leave their work stops, a critical difference with a consultant. Consultant does mean something. Means you temporarily hire experience in a field you are not familiar with to bring competency to your company, train/knowledge transfer to employees, and have a quick up ramping of a project which can continue when the consultant leaves because now you have a proper architecture and your employees are trained to use it, work with and extend it.

mgkimsal 9y ago

For a single person, it's often both. Personally, there are projects where I'm more a 'freelance software engineer' - someone else is managing the project, working with the end client to determine goals, dates, etc. Someone else did sales and defined the outcomes, etc. I'm a pair of hands. In other cases, I'm doing more of that other work - actually 'consulting' - meeting with people, helping determine strategy/direction, etc - then sometimes managing the project and/or doing some code (if code is needed, and usually is).

gvsmith 9y ago

Except in the real world (also at Google) the people who "type the code" also do the actual design work. I quess Perelman was also just "typing a proof". The amount of clueless people here is astonishing.

kirubakaran 9y ago
Hey, just fyi, this comment was flagged to death but I vouched for it to undo that, as I think you mean well and you make good points. I'm guessing the flaggers were reacting to the "clueless people" line.
bastijn 9y ago
I consider Google a rare breed. Make no mistake, I absolutely love companies where software engineering is understood by the exco as first (and only) class citizen. The real world is a matter of location and experience I guess. Silicon valley would not be my example of the real world. My experience is more companies see consultants as not another developer. They already have their architects and engineers to do just that. People typing code as their first commitment, stating they will commit code to archive in their core statement of work, do not scale. I'd rather have a consultant using his experience to teach my 100 developers what to make and commit to the archive. Have his experience, mind and vision executed by 100 people. That scales. That is worth the 5 (6,7) figures I pay him. If he can only work as hard as at most 2, or heck 5 of my developers I'd rather hire that at a fraction of the price. Note that this thread was on consultants that ask 5 figures a week. I took that as upper half end of the 5 figures. Entry level consultants coming at 85-150€ an hour (in EU) are a different story. They would be seen as an architect with experience outside the company and as of such would most likely code and design like a regular architect. Not all are clueless I guess. Just people from all over the world and from all sorts of companies. P.s. Only have experience with enterprise consultancy. After writing I realize this may be entirely different from consultancy in/for a small sized firm.