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A Sex Pistols Concert Film Languished for Four Decades

53 points by SirLJ 9y ago

StavrosK 9y ago
The most interesting thing about this article, to me, was that apparently nobody can decide how to spell the title. Is it "right" or "rite"? Even Wikipedia can't decide, mentioning both alternatives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.O.A.:_A_Rite_of_Passage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.O.A.:_A_Rite_of_Passage
- pjc50 9y ago
  In general the phrase should be spelt "rite" (as in ritual), not "right" as in a legal right.
- badcede 9y ago
  Punk often misspelled things to make some punky point, so "right" was likely a deliberate pun.
- PhasmaFelis 9y ago
  The film poster says "Right", the trailer says "Right"; seems pretty conclusive. I'm really not clear why most articles say "Rite". Wikipedia in particular should know better, but they already have a problem with cluelessly pedantic hypercorrection (https://xkcd.com/1167/ https://xkcd.com/1167/). I keep expecting them to try to "correct" Pet Sematary.
  - StavrosK 9y ago
    The trailer says "right" in the frame, but the video title says "rite": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2CbNRVHPM0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2CbNRVHPM0. However, you seem to be correct. Since the poster and trailer agree, it seems that the title is "right".
taude 9y ago
Did I miss something in the article? It didn't make it clear as to where I actually can see it or how... Edit: I eventually went googling for it, and disappointed I need BlueRay/DVD to view. It can't be hard to distribute digitally these days....
- code_chimp 9y ago
  Amazon Video has it for purchase/rent: https://www.amazon.com/D-Right-Passage/dp/B078HV33TL/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2 https://www.amazon.com/D-Right-Passage/dp/B078HV33TL/ref=sr_...
WillPostForFood 9y ago
If you have the slightest chance interest in the Sex Pistols, punk rock, or even the story of how something small and sincere can shake up an industry and culture, check out the documentary The Filth and The Fury. It covers some of the same territory as DOA, but I think better captures the cultural and economic stagnation in the 70s.
badcede 9y ago
https://dangerousminds.net/comments/crucial_punk_doc_doa_a_right_of_passage_finally_restored_for_a_hi_def_d https://dangerousminds.net/comments/crucial_punk_doc_doa_a_r...
Joeboy 9y ago
Sharing this wonderful two minute '80s Japanese overview of British punk for no real reason other than that I happened upon it the other day: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4ryjm http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4ryjm
- lovemenot 9y ago
  Not sure which language that is - Turkish maybe? - but it's definitely not Japanese.
baldfat 9y ago
Wow the Sex Pistols a corporate created punk band aka the Nsync of punk. I have no idea why anyone even cares about this band besides the horror and evilness which is Sid Vicious (Edit I said Johnny Rotten but Im not far off). "The Sex Pistols were the brainchild of young entrepreneur Malcolm McLaren." Nothing drives my Punk Rock childhood crazy then people putting this corporate fake band some honor. Rant over. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/the-sex-pistols/biography https://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/the-sex-pistols/b...
- sillypog 9y ago
  I assume you mean Sid Vicious rather than Johnny Rotten, a smart and articulate guy whose other band, Public Image Ltd deserves plenty of acclaim regardless of whether or not they are punk “enough”. It’s not like Malcolm McLaren was the Simon Cowell of his era. He started out as a shop keeper, had deep ties to the scene, and was an artist himself. Plenty of worthwhile bands have had a leg up from well connected people over the years. At the very least it brings visibility to other artists in the genre and it certainly shouldn’t detract from your enjoyment of Holidays In The Sun.
  - baldfat 9y ago
    I preferred Joy Division, early Talking Heads, EARLY B-52 and Ramones over anything of the Sex Pistols. They just were famous for being jerks.
- empath75 9y ago
  Regardless of their talent or authenticity or whatever, they were a hugely influential band and their lack of talent encouraged a lot of people to start their own, better bands. I think authenticity is hugely over rated. Believe me, every band you’ve ever loved is a corporate creation or a sell out on some level.
- bogomipz 9y ago
  >"Wow the Sex Pistols a corporate created punk band aka the Nsync of punk." What an incredibly uninformed thing to say. I guess you don't know that it was their legendary gig in Manchester in 1976 that actually kicked off the whole "Punk" movement? See: http://www.openculture.com/2015/06/the-sex-pistols-1976-manchester-gig-that-changed-the-world.html http://www.openculture.com/2015/06/the-sex-pistols-1976-manc... Also Paul Cook and Steven Jones had a band called the Strand years before they met Malcolm McLaren. And it was Bernie Rhodes(the Clash's manager) that got Johnny Lydon to join the Pistols. Malcom McLaren ran an independent clothing store that sold t-shirts and bondage inspired clothing. How is any of that even remotely corporate? Or even remotely comparable to a boy band? >"I have no idea why anyone even cares about this band band .." There are so many great bands that formed because they were inspired by the Sex Pistols - The Clash, Buzzcocks, The Smiths, The Fall, The Pretenders, Magazine, X-Ray Spex, Joy Division, Siouxsie and the Banshees [1][2]. In fact probably most of the great post-punk that came out of England between the late 70s and early 80s. Their whole ethos was "anybody could do it." You can not get any more DIY and any less corporate than that. They were actually a reaction to the corporate state of music at the time. You might want to read up on your rock history a bit. [1] http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/sex-pistols-free-trade-manchester-11423565 http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightl... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/dec/21/rocks-backpages-clash-joe-strummer https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/dec/21/rocks-backpage...

53 points by SirLJ 9y ago

The most interesting thing about this article, to me, was that apparently nobody can decide how to spell the title. Is it "right" or "rite"? Even Wikipedia can't decide, mentioning both alternatives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.O.A.:_A_Rite_of_Passage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.O.A.:_A_Rite_of_Passage

pjc50 9y ago
In general the phrase should be spelt "rite" (as in ritual), not "right" as in a legal right.
badcede 9y ago
Punk often misspelled things to make some punky point, so "right" was likely a deliberate pun.
PhasmaFelis 9y ago
The film poster says "Right", the trailer says "Right"; seems pretty conclusive. I'm really not clear why most articles say "Rite". Wikipedia in particular should know better, but they already have a problem with cluelessly pedantic hypercorrection (https://xkcd.com/1167/ https://xkcd.com/1167/). I keep expecting them to try to "correct" Pet Sematary.
- StavrosK 9y ago
  The trailer says "right" in the frame, but the video title says "rite": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2CbNRVHPM0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2CbNRVHPM0. However, you seem to be correct. Since the poster and trailer agree, it seems that the title is "right".

taude 9y ago

Did I miss something in the article? It didn't make it clear as to where I actually can see it or how... Edit: I eventually went googling for it, and disappointed I need BlueRay/DVD to view. It can't be hard to distribute digitally these days....

code_chimp 9y ago
Amazon Video has it for purchase/rent: https://www.amazon.com/D-Right-Passage/dp/B078HV33TL/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2 https://www.amazon.com/D-Right-Passage/dp/B078HV33TL/ref=sr_...

WillPostForFood 9y ago

If you have the slightest chance interest in the Sex Pistols, punk rock, or even the story of how something small and sincere can shake up an industry and culture, check out the documentary The Filth and The Fury. It covers some of the same territory as DOA, but I think better captures the cultural and economic stagnation in the 70s.

badcede 9y ago

https://dangerousminds.net/comments/crucial_punk_doc_doa_a_right_of_passage_finally_restored_for_a_hi_def_d https://dangerousminds.net/comments/crucial_punk_doc_doa_a_r...

Joeboy 9y ago

Sharing this wonderful two minute '80s Japanese overview of British punk for no real reason other than that I happened upon it the other day: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4ryjm http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4ryjm

lovemenot 9y ago
Not sure which language that is - Turkish maybe? - but it's definitely not Japanese.

baldfat 9y ago

Wow the Sex Pistols a corporate created punk band aka the Nsync of punk. I have no idea why anyone even cares about this band besides the horror and evilness which is Sid Vicious (Edit I said Johnny Rotten but Im not far off). "The Sex Pistols were the brainchild of young entrepreneur Malcolm McLaren." Nothing drives my Punk Rock childhood crazy then people putting this corporate fake band some honor. Rant over. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/the-sex-pistols/biography https://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/the-sex-pistols/b...

sillypog 9y ago
I assume you mean Sid Vicious rather than Johnny Rotten, a smart and articulate guy whose other band, Public Image Ltd deserves plenty of acclaim regardless of whether or not they are punk “enough”. It’s not like Malcolm McLaren was the Simon Cowell of his era. He started out as a shop keeper, had deep ties to the scene, and was an artist himself. Plenty of worthwhile bands have had a leg up from well connected people over the years. At the very least it brings visibility to other artists in the genre and it certainly shouldn’t detract from your enjoyment of Holidays In The Sun.
- baldfat 9y ago
  I preferred Joy Division, early Talking Heads, EARLY B-52 and Ramones over anything of the Sex Pistols. They just were famous for being jerks.
empath75 9y ago
Regardless of their talent or authenticity or whatever, they were a hugely influential band and their lack of talent encouraged a lot of people to start their own, better bands. I think authenticity is hugely over rated. Believe me, every band you’ve ever loved is a corporate creation or a sell out on some level.
bogomipz 9y ago
>"Wow the Sex Pistols a corporate created punk band aka the Nsync of punk." What an incredibly uninformed thing to say. I guess you don't know that it was their legendary gig in Manchester in 1976 that actually kicked off the whole "Punk" movement? See: http://www.openculture.com/2015/06/the-sex-pistols-1976-manchester-gig-that-changed-the-world.html http://www.openculture.com/2015/06/the-sex-pistols-1976-manc... Also Paul Cook and Steven Jones had a band called the Strand years before they met Malcolm McLaren. And it was Bernie Rhodes(the Clash's manager) that got Johnny Lydon to join the Pistols. Malcom McLaren ran an independent clothing store that sold t-shirts and bondage inspired clothing. How is any of that even remotely corporate? Or even remotely comparable to a boy band? >"I have no idea why anyone even cares about this band band .." There are so many great bands that formed because they were inspired by the Sex Pistols - The Clash, Buzzcocks, The Smiths, The Fall, The Pretenders, Magazine, X-Ray Spex, Joy Division, Siouxsie and the Banshees [1][2]. In fact probably most of the great post-punk that came out of England between the late 70s and early 80s. Their whole ethos was "anybody could do it." You can not get any more DIY and any less corporate than that. They were actually a reaction to the corporate state of music at the time. You might want to read up on your rock history a bit. [1] http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/sex-pistols-free-trade-manchester-11423565 http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightl... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/dec/21/rocks-backpages-clash-joe-strummer https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/dec/21/rocks-backpage...