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Part of why I'm so up on pot legalization - locally grown, conflict-free drugs.

chisleu 9y ago
IMHO, It's only conflict free if you grow it yourself unfortunately. I don't smoke myself but I plan to summer in Colorado in 2018 and grow a crop to give to oncology patients and the like.
- azernik 9y ago
  Commercial pot growing in California comes with some serious illegality (especially when it comes to environmental regulations), but as far as I know the level of violence involved is relatively low.
- ByThyGrace 9y ago
  Not to be nitpicky, but why would these patients (who will be depositary of your good will) think any different from you as to "it's only conflict free if you grow it yourself"? They may as well use this moral standing to reject your crop. There has to be trust at some point right?
  - chisleu 9y ago
    I meant that if you buy it in stores, you are generating a lot of taxes that are used to do shit like bomb the fuck out of Libya, fund the mercenaries that intelligence already knew were going to shift from FSA to fighting for ISIS (because we knew ISIS was taking over certain areas in the drug trade and certain oil fields. The ~1M people dead in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last dozen or so years because of our interventionism without any serious plan for success. I don't care if the patients have my politics. Most people don't. I just want to help people that have serious shit going on.
rootsudo 9y ago
Conflict-free? I never understood that. Is Sugar considered conflict-free?
- azernik 9y ago
  The comparison being to conflict diamonds (and conflict-free diamonds) - a lot of wars are fueled and escalated by revenues from natural resource extraction, and a pretty simple kind of ethical consumption is to decide to not buy diamonds from, say, the DRC. The market will adapt somewhat, especially if the good is a commodity whose origin can be obscured in the supply chain, but substituting a whole different good avoids that problem. Buy gems other than diamonds, for example.
  - astura 9y ago
    >if the good is a commodity whose origin can be obscured in the supply chain Like what happens with diamonds: https://www.salon.com/2013/01/07/the_myth_of_conflict_free_diamonds/ https://www.salon.com/2013/01/07/the_myth_of_conflict_free_d...
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- Pica_soO 9y ago
  Sugar is not conflict free- most comes from sugar cane, which is at fault for major deforrestation. In addition renewable carbohydrates are all part of a artesic market, meaning if you push them with subsidies on one market (bio-fuels), the subsidy propagates via demand to all connected markets. Meaning Sugar prizes rising is a indicator for future conflict due to missing food.

IMHO, It's only conflict free if you grow it yourself unfortunately. I don't smoke myself but I plan to summer in Colorado in 2018 and grow a crop to give to oncology patients and the like.

azernik 9y ago
Commercial pot growing in California comes with some serious illegality (especially when it comes to environmental regulations), but as far as I know the level of violence involved is relatively low.
ByThyGrace 9y ago
Not to be nitpicky, but why would these patients (who will be depositary of your good will) think any different from you as to "it's only conflict free if you grow it yourself"? They may as well use this moral standing to reject your crop. There has to be trust at some point right?
- chisleu 9y ago
  I meant that if you buy it in stores, you are generating a lot of taxes that are used to do shit like bomb the fuck out of Libya, fund the mercenaries that intelligence already knew were going to shift from FSA to fighting for ISIS (because we knew ISIS was taking over certain areas in the drug trade and certain oil fields. The ~1M people dead in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last dozen or so years because of our interventionism without any serious plan for success. I don't care if the patients have my politics. Most people don't. I just want to help people that have serious shit going on.

rootsudo 9y ago

Conflict-free? I never understood that. Is Sugar considered conflict-free?

azernik 9y ago
The comparison being to conflict diamonds (and conflict-free diamonds) - a lot of wars are fueled and escalated by revenues from natural resource extraction, and a pretty simple kind of ethical consumption is to decide to not buy diamonds from, say, the DRC. The market will adapt somewhat, especially if the good is a commodity whose origin can be obscured in the supply chain, but substituting a whole different good avoids that problem. Buy gems other than diamonds, for example.
- astura 9y ago
  >if the good is a commodity whose origin can be obscured in the supply chain Like what happens with diamonds: https://www.salon.com/2013/01/07/the_myth_of_conflict_free_diamonds/ https://www.salon.com/2013/01/07/the_myth_of_conflict_free_d...
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Pica_soO 9y ago
Sugar is not conflict free- most comes from sugar cane, which is at fault for major deforrestation. In addition renewable carbohydrates are all part of a artesic market, meaning if you push them with subsidies on one market (bio-fuels), the subsidy propagates via demand to all connected markets. Meaning Sugar prizes rising is a indicator for future conflict due to missing food.