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It would be interesting to see a candid interview with what the real reason for not liking then is. I suspect it’s rooted in the Muslim conquests which are stil

by xir78 9y ago

It would be interesting to see a candid interview with what the real reason for not liking then is. I suspect it’s rooted in the Muslim conquests which are still mentioned in Buddhist texts. Needless to say the Muslim religion is not held in much regard due to that, as opposed to Hinduism which is considered worthy of debating.

candiodari 9y ago
The problem is that this reaction is at least somewhat understandable. It may have something to do with how muslims treat buddhists (or any non-muslims), near Myanmar ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Bangladesh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Banglad... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Pakistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Pakista... (note: relevant because Pakistan used to be a neighbouring country to Myanmar/Burma) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_India (you can argue which side instigated this ... except not really ... the issue started with the basic idea, pushed by muslims that muslims cannot live in a state they do not control (which is of course a rule in Sharia) ... and ended with somewhere between 2 and 10 million deaths, and that number is ignoring the fact that about 8 million Hindus that were in Pakistan in 1951 have "somehow" dropped to less than 2 million today despite very strong population growth) But back to Myanmar, given the above backdrop, then this happens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_insurgency_in_Western_Myanmar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_insurgency_in_Western... So whilst this is a very serious insurgency, can please establish in this discussion that: 1) the Rohingya are not looking for peace. They're trying to conquer (the land where they are a majority, but still they're trying to conquer it). That is the big source of tensions. This is a failed conquest, not an unprovoked ethnic/racist conflict. 2) the Rohingya islamist separatists have attempted to massacre Burmese cities. They have (thankfully) only failed attempts at a large scale massacre to show for it, but there is no doubting their intent, and there were plenty of victims (dozens to hundreds, depending on what numbers you believe). 3) the immediate cause of this conflict (the match that lit the fire) was a synchronized attack on 24 police stations in the state, resulting in the deaths of 24 police officers. This attack was perpetrated weeks after a Rohingya group of youngsters decided to murder a young woman (for reasons that probably had nothing to do with religion or ethnicity, but the event incited sectarian clashes). Here's a wild thoery. This whole situation was an attempt by islamist separatist forces in Myanmar to create an ethnic conflict, because they believed it could result in their own state, or in an annexation of their region into Bangladesh. So they incite the riots, execute terror attacks, and attack the authorities in Myanmar, in very quick succession. One slight issue: the conflict did not go their way. And yes, this totally sucks for everyone. Most of all for the Rohingya themselves, but it really, really sucks for everyone. Every side in this conflict has hundreds of dead, and incredible damage inflicted that will take decades to rebuild.
- org3432 9y ago
  Unfortunately this is a known chess move and some religions use it, letting their own people be harmed for a "greater good". Muslims conquests wiped out much of Buddhism in India, so it's likely a concern on everyone's mind. They are well known today for destroying Nalanda: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_Buddhism_in_the_Indian_subcontinent#Islamic_conquest_and_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_Buddhism_in_the_Ind...
- tim333 9y ago
  >1) the Rohingya are not looking for peace. There are a lot of Rohingya with different opinions. I'd guess 99% are looking for peace with a very small minority in favour of violent action.
  - eric24234 9y ago
    > I'd guess 99% are looking for peace with a very small minority in favour of violent action. This so called 99% never oppose and stay silent at the best case or sympathize openly at the worst case and this sucks for everyone including muslims and non-muslims. Its impossible to have peace without muslim co-existence with other communities without koran going another version like the new bible. The problem is because koran asks for the state to be controlled by sharia law and sharia law just is not good.

by xir78 9y ago

candiodari 9y ago

The problem is that this reaction is at least somewhat understandable. It may have something to do with how muslims treat buddhists (or any non-muslims), near Myanmar ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Bangladesh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Banglad... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Pakistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Pakista... (note: relevant because Pakistan used to be a neighbouring country to Myanmar/Burma) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_India (you can argue which side instigated this ... except not really ... the issue started with the basic idea, pushed by muslims that muslims cannot live in a state they do not control (which is of course a rule in Sharia) ... and ended with somewhere between 2 and 10 million deaths, and that number is ignoring the fact that about 8 million Hindus that were in Pakistan in 1951 have "somehow" dropped to less than 2 million today despite very strong population growth) But back to Myanmar, given the above backdrop, then this happens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_insurgency_in_Western_Myanmar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_insurgency_in_Western... So whilst this is a very serious insurgency, can please establish in this discussion that: 1) the Rohingya are not looking for peace. They're trying to conquer (the land where they are a majority, but still they're trying to conquer it). That is the big source of tensions. This is a failed conquest, not an unprovoked ethnic/racist conflict. 2) the Rohingya islamist separatists have attempted to massacre Burmese cities. They have (thankfully) only failed attempts at a large scale massacre to show for it, but there is no doubting their intent, and there were plenty of victims (dozens to hundreds, depending on what numbers you believe). 3) the immediate cause of this conflict (the match that lit the fire) was a synchronized attack on 24 police stations in the state, resulting in the deaths of 24 police officers. This attack was perpetrated weeks after a Rohingya group of youngsters decided to murder a young woman (for reasons that probably had nothing to do with religion or ethnicity, but the event incited sectarian clashes). Here's a wild thoery. This whole situation was an attempt by islamist separatist forces in Myanmar to create an ethnic conflict, because they believed it could result in their own state, or in an annexation of their region into Bangladesh. So they incite the riots, execute terror attacks, and attack the authorities in Myanmar, in very quick succession. One slight issue: the conflict did not go their way. And yes, this totally sucks for everyone. Most of all for the Rohingya themselves, but it really, really sucks for everyone. Every side in this conflict has hundreds of dead, and incredible damage inflicted that will take decades to rebuild.

org3432 9y ago
Unfortunately this is a known chess move and some religions use it, letting their own people be harmed for a "greater good". Muslims conquests wiped out much of Buddhism in India, so it's likely a concern on everyone's mind. They are well known today for destroying Nalanda: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_Buddhism_in_the_Indian_subcontinent#Islamic_conquest_and_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_Buddhism_in_the_Ind...
tim333 9y ago
>1) the Rohingya are not looking for peace. There are a lot of Rohingya with different opinions. I'd guess 99% are looking for peace with a very small minority in favour of violent action.
- eric24234 9y ago
  > I'd guess 99% are looking for peace with a very small minority in favour of violent action. This so called 99% never oppose and stay silent at the best case or sympathize openly at the worst case and this sucks for everyone including muslims and non-muslims. Its impossible to have peace without muslim co-existence with other communities without koran going another version like the new bible. The problem is because koran asks for the state to be controlled by sharia law and sharia law just is not good.