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If you have kids who watch netflix, it's interesting how they recoil in disgust at advertising interrupting a show. And it carries over to YouTube too - if they

by gdilla 9y ago

If you have kids who watch netflix, it's interesting how they recoil in disgust at advertising interrupting a show. And it carries over to YouTube too - if they see pre-roll they skip as soon as possible. It'll be interesting when they're teens what kind of media related app will be the 'it' app for them

on_and_off 9y ago
Interesting. The one good thing with ads on the web is that it works as a micropayment. I wonder how a service like Youtube would work without ads ? I currently have a no-ads subscription on Youtube (packaged with a google music, so it is pretty attractive to me) but I don't think this service would work as a gated subscribe only website.
- evv 9y ago
  Brendon Eich is working on "Brave Browser", which aims to use Ethereum to enable an ideal relationship between consumers, content producers, and advertisers.
  - cyborgx7 9y ago
    A relationship that still includes advertisers is never ideal.
    - BrendanEich 9y ago
      No ads unless each user opts in, then only: 0. Consent required for any ads at all, from user and (see 2) publisher if involved. 1. User private ads, anonymously confirmed (ANONIZE2 ZKP protocol, will move on-chain when Ethereum supports it). Ad placement is signal- and cookie-free, by a machine learning agent running only on device and looking at only your on-device data (private sync uses secret key, no data in clear on any servers), matching against common per region/language ad catalog listing edge urls + keywords per ad. 2. Revenue share of 70% to inventory (ad slot) owner, i.e., to the user in (1). If publishers partner on indirect ad slots p, pub gets 70%, user gets 15%. In all cases users gets at least as much as Brave gets. So users of Brave block ads and trackers by default. If you want to contribute anonymously you can fund your user BAT wallet (we are doing initial grants). Pinned a la Patreon contributions as well as private pro data by view count and time send tokens in one transaction on chain per 30 days of uptime. But when BAT ads are up and sharing revenue to users, the you can opt into those to fill your wallet. If you want to can out, you will be able to, but only via KYC (banking “Know Your Customer) level vetting. By default your revenue will flow back to your pinned and supported sites and creators.
gozur88 9y ago
The first time my nephew watched broadcast television he told us the television was broken and asked us to fix it. "Really can't disagree with you there, kid."
shadyrudy 9y ago
We dont have Netflix, but we have HBO. So my kids watch Sesame Street, Pinky Dinky Doo, etc. They won't watch anything on Cartoon Network because of the commercials. In face, my kids have zero tolerance for commercials now. We got YouTube Red because of the ads on iPad were out of control. It's insane the amount of commercials YouTube puts in a 10 minute clip of Busy Beavers, etc.
- nofilter 9y ago
  Since I'm a '92 edition, I grew up with Cartoon Networks. Back in the days of Ed, Edd and Eddy, Courage The Cowardly Dog, Scooby Doo, Road Runner and so on and I don't remember it having even half as much advertising as they do now. I wonder what changed.

by gdilla 9y ago

on_and_off 9y ago

Interesting. The one good thing with ads on the web is that it works as a micropayment. I wonder how a service like Youtube would work without ads ? I currently have a no-ads subscription on Youtube (packaged with a google music, so it is pretty attractive to me) but I don't think this service would work as a gated subscribe only website.

evv 9y ago
Brendon Eich is working on "Brave Browser", which aims to use Ethereum to enable an ideal relationship between consumers, content producers, and advertisers.
- cyborgx7 9y ago
  A relationship that still includes advertisers is never ideal.
  - BrendanEich 9y ago
    No ads unless each user opts in, then only: 0. Consent required for any ads at all, from user and (see 2) publisher if involved. 1. User private ads, anonymously confirmed (ANONIZE2 ZKP protocol, will move on-chain when Ethereum supports it). Ad placement is signal- and cookie-free, by a machine learning agent running only on device and looking at only your on-device data (private sync uses secret key, no data in clear on any servers), matching against common per region/language ad catalog listing edge urls + keywords per ad. 2. Revenue share of 70% to inventory (ad slot) owner, i.e., to the user in (1). If publishers partner on indirect ad slots p, pub gets 70%, user gets 15%. In all cases users gets at least as much as Brave gets. So users of Brave block ads and trackers by default. If you want to contribute anonymously you can fund your user BAT wallet (we are doing initial grants). Pinned a la Patreon contributions as well as private pro data by view count and time send tokens in one transaction on chain per 30 days of uptime. But when BAT ads are up and sharing revenue to users, the you can opt into those to fill your wallet. If you want to can out, you will be able to, but only via KYC (banking “Know Your Customer) level vetting. By default your revenue will flow back to your pinned and supported sites and creators.

gozur88 9y ago

The first time my nephew watched broadcast television he told us the television was broken and asked us to fix it. "Really can't disagree with you there, kid."

shadyrudy 9y ago

We dont have Netflix, but we have HBO. So my kids watch Sesame Street, Pinky Dinky Doo, etc. They won't watch anything on Cartoon Network because of the commercials. In face, my kids have zero tolerance for commercials now. We got YouTube Red because of the ads on iPad were out of control. It's insane the amount of commercials YouTube puts in a 10 minute clip of Busy Beavers, etc.

nofilter 9y ago
Since I'm a '92 edition, I grew up with Cartoon Networks. Back in the days of Ed, Edd and Eddy, Courage The Cowardly Dog, Scooby Doo, Road Runner and so on and I don't remember it having even half as much advertising as they do now. I wonder what changed.