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As non-NYC resident the first thing I though was, "Huh, I wonder what's wrong with New York's subways?" But alas they went straight into solutions so I am stil

by esmi 9y ago

As non-NYC resident the first thing I though was, "Huh, I wonder what's wrong with New York's subways?" But alas they went straight into solutions so I am still left to wonder what problems they are trying to fix and in what priority. Pretty webpage though.

chickenbane 9y ago
If only there were some way to find out information on the problem of New York's subways! Here you go: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/nyregion/new-york-subway-system-failure-delays.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/nyregion/new-york-subway-... Great comment though.
- esmi 9y ago
  That's not what I mean. Take for example solution #1: "Redesign stations to get more people on and off trains faster." The text and graphics then goes on to explain some interesting issues with various stations but what solutions are the experts recommending to get more people on and off? How many more people per unit of time do they need to accommodate? This is solution #1, does that mean it's the most urgent? etc. etc.
rockarage 9y ago
Maybe you should try reading the article? from the article: "Many stations like this one are not prepared to accommodate a larger volume of passengers, even if a new traffic control system allowed trains to come more frequently." "Much of the subway’s signal system uses antiquated parts like the electromechanical relays shown above from the West Fourth Street-Washington Square station in Manhattan. Train traffic for about two-thirds of the subway system is monitored in rooms like the one shown below at West Fourth Street. Little has changed in a century. The old signal system uses a network of switches and cables along the track to keep trains a safe distance apart. The technology is outdated and expensive to maintain."
- esmi 9y ago
  You are right. The article only claimed to provide a list of expert suggestions on how to fix the New York subway and it did that. I'm the one who wants it to be more. It strikes a chord because the suggestions offered feel like so many tech roadmap planning meetings I've been in where the technology itself is the end and not a means to an end. Without the greater context I am not sure how anyone can evaluate the suggestions to try and predict whether or not they will accomplish the stated goal. Assume the hallways were widened, all the relays, monitoring rooms and signals were updated addressing each quote you provided. Is New York's subway fixed now? Maybe it's better for some definitions of better but I digress...

by esmi 9y ago

chickenbane 9y ago

If only there were some way to find out information on the problem of New York's subways! Here you go: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/nyregion/new-york-subway-system-failure-delays.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/nyregion/new-york-subway-... Great comment though.

esmi 9y ago
That's not what I mean. Take for example solution #1: "Redesign stations to get more people on and off trains faster." The text and graphics then goes on to explain some interesting issues with various stations but what solutions are the experts recommending to get more people on and off? How many more people per unit of time do they need to accommodate? This is solution #1, does that mean it's the most urgent? etc. etc.

rockarage 9y ago

Maybe you should try reading the article? from the article: "Many stations like this one are not prepared to accommodate a larger volume of passengers, even if a new traffic control system allowed trains to come more frequently." "Much of the subway’s signal system uses antiquated parts like the electromechanical relays shown above from the West Fourth Street-Washington Square station in Manhattan. Train traffic for about two-thirds of the subway system is monitored in rooms like the one shown below at West Fourth Street. Little has changed in a century. The old signal system uses a network of switches and cables along the track to keep trains a safe distance apart. The technology is outdated and expensive to maintain."

esmi 9y ago
You are right. The article only claimed to provide a list of expert suggestions on how to fix the New York subway and it did that. I'm the one who wants it to be more. It strikes a chord because the suggestions offered feel like so many tech roadmap planning meetings I've been in where the technology itself is the end and not a means to an end. Without the greater context I am not sure how anyone can evaluate the suggestions to try and predict whether or not they will accomplish the stated goal. Assume the hallways were widened, all the relays, monitoring rooms and signals were updated addressing each quote you provided. Is New York's subway fixed now? Maybe it's better for some definitions of better but I digress...