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It is somewhat amusing that the cocaine in the stock photo costs 0.13BTC at a price of $27. I know people who have bought weed for the equivalent of hundreds of

by joshvm 9y ago

It is somewhat amusing that the cocaine in the stock photo costs 0.13BTC at a price of $27. I know people who have bought weed for the equivalent of hundreds of thousands of dollars in today's bitcoin (even post crash). The comment about eBay is interesting - that negative feedback is scarce because people don't bother if they're unhappy. I think one aspect is that it's more difficult to leave a negative review, and if you've ever sold on eBay then you're probably more reluctant to neg other sellers. I'm certainly willing to wait for a seller to sort things out rather than give them a negative, because of the stigma not having 100% can bring you.

Xeoncross 9y ago
TL;DR Seller did wrong and it cost _me_ reputation. I left a neutral feedback one time because of a legitimate seller problem, but otherwise things were fine. The feedback didn't affect his seller score. The seller left negative retaliation feedback and then offered to have us both unpublished (or something) the feedback so that it didn't affect my reputation. I learned you don't ever leave negative feedback on ebay.
- Zak 9y ago
  This would be easy for Ebay to fix: simply don't show feedback until both parties have left feedback, or the time limit for leaving feedback is reached.
- rz2k 9y ago
  I wish you could have personal blacklists of sellers so they don't appear in your own search results. Many years ago I avoided leaving negative feedback on a seller that agreeably accepted a return on stuff that was obviously counterfeit. A couple years later I felt like an idiot when I received garbage again, then realized that it was the same seller that had tried to quietly scam me before.
  - 15155 9y ago
    > Many years ago I avoided leaving negative feedback on a seller that agreeably accepted a return on stuff that was obviously counterfeit. I would've never sent it back. Explain this situation to your credit card company. If it isn't illegal by statute to send counterfeit goods, it's certainly against policy. All financial institutions have policies against moving these goods around if you can prove to some very low standard that the goods are counterfeit (take a handbag to a Macy's and have the counter clerk tell you it's counterfeit.)
    - stordoff 9y ago
      It's also against eBay policies to require the return of counterfeit items: > If a buyer suspects that an item is counterfeit and there are strong indicators that the item is counterfeit, the buyer isn’t required to return the item to the seller. The buyer agrees to cooperate with us to ensure the proper disposal of the item. In such cases, we refund the buyer for the full cost of the item and original postage, and the seller reimburses us for the refund. The buyer may not sell the item on eBay or elsewhere. https://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/money-back-guarantee.html https://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/money-back-guarantee....
- 15155 9y ago
  Sellers can no longer leave negative feedback for buyers for this exact reason, for better or worse. Now, they'll just buy one of your (cheap) items and leave negative feedback as a buyer if they can. Don't sell and buy on the same account.
rz2k 9y ago
I think the past norm was for sellers to leave positive feedback when they received money, and for buyers to leave positive feedback when they received a product that was accurately described. I have had good experiences buying and selling large items like computers on eBay, but I don't like the new practice of sellers withholding feedback until they get positive feedback.
- mitchdoogle 9y ago
  Sellers can't leave negative feedback for buyers at all.
stinos 9y ago
today's bitcoin (even post crash). Isn't it too soon to call this a crash (honest question)? I mean, it's at 12k or so now. It was at 6k a month ago. In the eyes of skeptical me, even not knowing anything about financial markets, those numbers don't exactly seem like crashing. Yet.

by joshvm 9y ago

Xeoncross 9y ago

TL;DR Seller did wrong and it cost _me_ reputation. I left a neutral feedback one time because of a legitimate seller problem, but otherwise things were fine. The feedback didn't affect his seller score. The seller left negative retaliation feedback and then offered to have us both unpublished (or something) the feedback so that it didn't affect my reputation. I learned you don't ever leave negative feedback on ebay.

Zak 9y ago
This would be easy for Ebay to fix: simply don't show feedback until both parties have left feedback, or the time limit for leaving feedback is reached.
rz2k 9y ago
I wish you could have personal blacklists of sellers so they don't appear in your own search results. Many years ago I avoided leaving negative feedback on a seller that agreeably accepted a return on stuff that was obviously counterfeit. A couple years later I felt like an idiot when I received garbage again, then realized that it was the same seller that had tried to quietly scam me before.
- 15155 9y ago
  > Many years ago I avoided leaving negative feedback on a seller that agreeably accepted a return on stuff that was obviously counterfeit. I would've never sent it back. Explain this situation to your credit card company. If it isn't illegal by statute to send counterfeit goods, it's certainly against policy. All financial institutions have policies against moving these goods around if you can prove to some very low standard that the goods are counterfeit (take a handbag to a Macy's and have the counter clerk tell you it's counterfeit.)
  - stordoff 9y ago
    It's also against eBay policies to require the return of counterfeit items: > If a buyer suspects that an item is counterfeit and there are strong indicators that the item is counterfeit, the buyer isn’t required to return the item to the seller. The buyer agrees to cooperate with us to ensure the proper disposal of the item. In such cases, we refund the buyer for the full cost of the item and original postage, and the seller reimburses us for the refund. The buyer may not sell the item on eBay or elsewhere. https://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/money-back-guarantee.html https://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/money-back-guarantee....
15155 9y ago
Sellers can no longer leave negative feedback for buyers for this exact reason, for better or worse. Now, they'll just buy one of your (cheap) items and leave negative feedback as a buyer if they can. Don't sell and buy on the same account.

rz2k 9y ago

I think the past norm was for sellers to leave positive feedback when they received money, and for buyers to leave positive feedback when they received a product that was accurately described. I have had good experiences buying and selling large items like computers on eBay, but I don't like the new practice of sellers withholding feedback until they get positive feedback.

mitchdoogle 9y ago
Sellers can't leave negative feedback for buyers at all.

stinos 9y ago

today's bitcoin (even post crash). Isn't it too soon to call this a crash (honest question)? I mean, it's at 12k or so now. It was at 6k a month ago. In the eyes of skeptical me, even not knowing anything about financial markets, those numbers don't exactly seem like crashing. Yet.