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I agree with egypturnash. I did two failed Patreons and currently have a successful one that barely is enough to live on (in southern Vermont, on Section 8) whi
by Applejinx 9y ago
I agree with egypturnash. I did two failed Patreons and currently have a successful one that barely is enough to live on (in southern Vermont, on Section 8) which was launched off the existence of an existing business about four times its size.
I can't speak for Kickstarter: that seems more of a 'from nothing' place and it'd be a gamble. I can say that if you are running a business charging money for what you do, you can do Patreon for the same thing and make a quarter to a half as much, IF you don't find viral success of some sort.
One big difference: doing the Patreon, you get to give your life work for 'free' to your community, which might desperately need that sort of support. I give tools to musicians, and I passionately believe that there are many musicians/producers/etc who cannot blow lots of money on proper tools they need. And, the ones I want to hear are not necessarily the ones who have the spending money.
So, my Patreon has other than monetary value to me. I take a hit in my income so that I can get the tools out there, across a wide range of host computers that sometimes aren't supported by the commercial sphere, and I get a lot of appreciation for doing it.
Even to do that, you need to already have a following, and it had better be a following that's already paying you or hiring you to do something.
- egypturnash 9y agoI fuckin' love that Patreon earns me more from drawing my comics than ads ever did. My stuff's all ad-free now. Which, yeah, it sure is nice to be able to have media that broke queer femmes can see themselves in as long as they have some kind of Internet connection. And other broke people who may not be seeing themselves in my protagonists but enjoy other aspects of my work.
- Applejinx 9y agoYeah, I was selling software as retail off my own storefront: I never tried to make it ad-supported, I hate that. Patreon seems like it's a cut above trying to be ad-supported or Youtube-supported. That doesn't make it comparable to operating on a true retail basis selling merchandise… but it's definitely better than 'everything being free' and trying to roll your own support system. I get people mad at Patreon wanting to send me money by PayPal. The thing is, if you do that, where are you going to be next month? I already know what total chaos of income and not being able to set expectations is like. It's called 'selling at retail and trying to get a next hit product'.