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If Philly had a subway system as connected as NYC I would be happy.

by hahla 9y ago

bobthechef 9y ago
The connections aren't the problem under discussion. The problem is that it's a crumbling subway system that is having trouble operating at the capacity the city requires. For a city as rich as New York, you would expect something much better.
- spyspy 9y ago
  > having trouble operating at the capacity the city requires. It's not just having trouble. The capacity the city requires is far beyond what it's currently running at. Meeting current demand would've meant planning for it two decades ago. Anyone who lives here will tell you that the subway is wildly unreliable. Huge time gaps between trains, train cars that are dangerously overcrowded, random line shutdowns, local trains randomly going express and vice versa, straight up train direction reversals, "signal problems", "mechanical issues", sick passengers who can't get medical help because there's no medical staff in that station, "police investigations", etc are all part of daily life here.
  - mancerayder 9y ago
    Yes, all of this. It bears mentioning that prior to 2015 it was not this bad. In the early 2000's it was common to easily get a seat. I recall the main lines that seemed crowded were the 456 line. Around 2008 or 2010 they canceled a few lines, reduced bus service, and more. To me what smelled fishy was that the prior year, they had a budget surplus and gave everyone free trips on a Christmas weekend. Add to that there were less homeless back then, and then complete the picture with the number of homeless people sprawled out in a heap on several seats on a crowded train, and you start to see how people are questioning why they live here. What's interesting to see is sometimes during rush hour, and if you see a train car that seems less crowded you avoid it either because a) it's summer and the A/C died in that train car b) you have a homeless or crazy person harassing people or sprawled out, except exuding an unusually strong odor that day.
joekrill 9y ago
Not that I disagree, but this has absolutely nothing to do with the article. You might as well have said "I love kittens".
oh_sigh 9y ago
Philly is only 1/8th the size of NY and has much worse finances so that is just a dream:(

If Philly had a subway system as connected as NYC I would be happy.

by hahla 9y ago

If Philly had a subway system as connected as NYC I would be happy.

The connections aren't the problem under discussion. The problem is that it's a crumbling subway system that is having trouble operating at the capacity the city requires. For a city as rich as New York, you would expect something much better.

spyspy 9y ago
> having trouble operating at the capacity the city requires. It's not just having trouble. The capacity the city requires is far beyond what it's currently running at. Meeting current demand would've meant planning for it two decades ago. Anyone who lives here will tell you that the subway is wildly unreliable. Huge time gaps between trains, train cars that are dangerously overcrowded, random line shutdowns, local trains randomly going express and vice versa, straight up train direction reversals, "signal problems", "mechanical issues", sick passengers who can't get medical help because there's no medical staff in that station, "police investigations", etc are all part of daily life here.
- mancerayder 9y ago
  Yes, all of this. It bears mentioning that prior to 2015 it was not this bad. In the early 2000's it was common to easily get a seat. I recall the main lines that seemed crowded were the 456 line. Around 2008 or 2010 they canceled a few lines, reduced bus service, and more. To me what smelled fishy was that the prior year, they had a budget surplus and gave everyone free trips on a Christmas weekend. Add to that there were less homeless back then, and then complete the picture with the number of homeless people sprawled out in a heap on several seats on a crowded train, and you start to see how people are questioning why they live here. What's interesting to see is sometimes during rush hour, and if you see a train car that seems less crowded you avoid it either because a) it's summer and the A/C died in that train car b) you have a homeless or crazy person harassing people or sprawled out, except exuding an unusually strong odor that day.

joekrill 9y ago

Not that I disagree, but this has absolutely nothing to do with the article. You might as well have said "I love kittens".

oh_sigh 9y ago

Philly is only 1/8th the size of NY and has much worse finances so that is just a dream:(