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His life was most definitely in danger.

by aviv 9y ago

dwild 9y ago
There seems to be missing something in your story to show danger. They just asked for his cash, nothing show any sign in danger in that. Would you pull out a gun because someone asked you for food too? Was there a threat? Which kind of threat? Did it look like these guys had the means to carry that threat and did it look like they actually were going to carry that threat? I wouldn't kill a guy in hope to get a few thousand dollars. There are cars that are worth much more than I could steal and risk much less than a homicide sentence (which I guess is pretty high in Arizona). I don't believe his life was in danger, but I'm also not living in a country where people think their life is constantly in danger and they have to carry gun for their safety. That mentality is dangerous in itself and may justify itself sadly. Having a gun in any interaction escalate way too quickly any risk.
- aviv 9y ago
  You could have just asked before writing this entire comment. One of the men was holding a knife. As simple as that.
- Cyberdog 9y ago
  > They just asked for his cash, nothing show any sign in danger in that. Yeah, that's all they said. I'm sure there was no threat in their words or mannerisms at all. Certainly, if the victim had merely given these gentlemen a firm "no," they would have just shrugged their shoulders and walked away.
- Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
  Two guys demanding money from you doesn't sound like a dangerous situation to you? You're nuts. Even if his life wasn't in danger he was gonna get roughed up, and that's worth pulling your weapon for.
- lurr 9y ago
  Demanded cash. Only an asshole would pull a gun on some homeless man who asks if he has any spare change. It changes if they come up and demand money. Losing a couple thousand bucks would suck, and if that was guaranteed to be the end of it then I'd rather that be the end of it. The problem is you are dealing with people who are already willing to commit robbery, there is any number of ways that situation could get violent. Once it does then who knows what happens.
- solotronics 9y ago
  In most states in the US you are definitely allowed to defend yourself and your property by brandishing and using a gun. "life, liberty, and property" -Locke

His life was most definitely in danger.

by aviv 9y ago

His life was most definitely in danger.

There seems to be missing something in your story to show danger. They just asked for his cash, nothing show any sign in danger in that. Would you pull out a gun because someone asked you for food too? Was there a threat? Which kind of threat? Did it look like these guys had the means to carry that threat and did it look like they actually were going to carry that threat? I wouldn't kill a guy in hope to get a few thousand dollars. There are cars that are worth much more than I could steal and risk much less than a homicide sentence (which I guess is pretty high in Arizona). I don't believe his life was in danger, but I'm also not living in a country where people think their life is constantly in danger and they have to carry gun for their safety. That mentality is dangerous in itself and may justify itself sadly. Having a gun in any interaction escalate way too quickly any risk.

aviv 9y ago
You could have just asked before writing this entire comment. One of the men was holding a knife. As simple as that.
Cyberdog 9y ago
> They just asked for his cash, nothing show any sign in danger in that. Yeah, that's all they said. I'm sure there was no threat in their words or mannerisms at all. Certainly, if the victim had merely given these gentlemen a firm "no," they would have just shrugged their shoulders and walked away.
Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
Two guys demanding money from you doesn't sound like a dangerous situation to you? You're nuts. Even if his life wasn't in danger he was gonna get roughed up, and that's worth pulling your weapon for.
lurr 9y ago
Demanded cash. Only an asshole would pull a gun on some homeless man who asks if he has any spare change. It changes if they come up and demand money. Losing a couple thousand bucks would suck, and if that was guaranteed to be the end of it then I'd rather that be the end of it. The problem is you are dealing with people who are already willing to commit robbery, there is any number of ways that situation could get violent. Once it does then who knows what happens.
solotronics 9y ago
In most states in the US you are definitely allowed to defend yourself and your property by brandishing and using a gun. "life, liberty, and property" -Locke