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Take out the Inner City Schools (Which gets 50% of the funding since it is property based funding) and US is one of the tops in the world. https://www.theatlant

Take out the Inner City Schools (Which gets 50% of the funding since it is property based funding) and US is one of the tops in the world. https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/08/property-taxes-and-unequal-schools/497333/ https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/08/propert... Massachusetts as a state would be in the top in the world right their with Finland, and that includes Boston http://blogs.wgbh.org/on-campus/2016/12/6/if-massachusetts-were-country-where-would-students-rank-math-reading-and-science/ http://blogs.wgbh.org/on-campus/2016/12/6/if-massachusetts-w... Also our Universities are also the top educational system in the world. 7 of the top 10 Universities of the world are US institutions. https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2017/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankin... PS Rant, Why is that Conservatives and Libertarians like to make things look worst in America and they consider themselves the only patriotic ones?

rayiner 9y ago
Inner city schools do not get less of the funding. Property taxes only account for half of K-12 funding. Federal and state grants to inner city and rural schools account for the other half. Here in Maryland, for example, Baltimore spends about the same as Montgomery County, a wealthy DC suburb. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2015/03/12/in-23-states-richer-school-districts-get-more-local-funding-than-poorer-districts/?utm_term=.ffc28de6334b https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2015/03/12/in-2.... > When federal dollars are included, just five states are spending less in their poorest districts than in their wealthiest. Nationwide, the average disparity drops from 15 percent to less than 2 percent.
- baldfat 9y ago
  > Inner city schools do not get less of the funding. These are all based on the public records, please consider why you stated that the funding is equal? Federal funding for education has also been less and less. http://www.openpagov.org/education_revenue_and_expenses.asp http://www.openpagov.org/education_revenue_and_expenses.asp (My city) Allentown SD per student = $13,949 (Next town over) Sailisbury SD per student = $21,519 (Highest in the state) Lower Merion SD per student = $28,495 Screen Shot of Data: https://imgur.com/a/DMjl7 https://imgur.com/a/DMjl7 http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pa-high-court-revives-school-funding-suit-20170928.html http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pa-high-court-revives-scho... "Here is ti challenge this statistics: Data from the National Center for Education Statistics shows that high-poverty school districts spent 15.6 percent less than those in the group with the least poverty. In Pennsylvania, that difference was 33 percent" Federal Funding title 1 for Inner City Schools funding per student is quite low, averaging about $500 to $600 a year. 50% of public schools qualify for federal money and the 14 billion works out to much less than most people believe. It amounts to a 5% increase in funding for some schools. https://www.brookings.edu/research/why-federal-spending-on-disadvantaged-students-title-i-doesnt-work/ https://www.brookings.edu/research/why-federal-spending-on-d... Here is the Heritage Foundations paper on how Inner City racial groups get more money and so there is no unequal funding problem based on race. This is just crazy statistics gymnastics. http://www.heritage.org/education/report/the-myth-racial-disparities-public-school-funding http://www.heritage.org/education/report/the-myth-racial-dis... My point is not race it is socioeconomic disparity at the school district level and Heritage wants to say school in districts favor the poorer schools. Poorer schools in School District isn't the problem it is school districts getting under funded. Funding isn't the answer but why should my daughter or son have 9 gym classes a year (School doesn't have a gym, nor a library room, and certainly no art class room) She also gets 9 art classes and 9 Music classes a year. They also don't get recess due to funding problems for monitors. My daughter in kindergarten got no recces from August till January. Though she had 2 hours of reading and 2 hours of math per day. http://www.macon.com/news/local/article28555831.html http://www.macon.com/news/local/article28555831.html
  - rayiner 9y ago
    As you can see in the WaPo article I linked, Pennsylvania is a huge outlier. Nationwide, including state and federal funding, poor districts get only 1.7% less than rich districts. In many states, like Maryland where I live, poor districts receive slightly more funding.
    - baldfat 9y ago
      On average in USA poor inner city school receive 15% less. That's the actual numbers. Some states have a more fair funding system and than there is PA. BUT if you look at the bottom states in Education, Miss, WV, and VA they allocate less money to education. In PA a teacher makes about $42,000 first year and in WV you get $28,500.
      - rayiner 9y ago
        From the WaPo article I linked above: > When federal dollars are included, just five states are spending less in their poorest districts than in their wealthiest. Nationwide, the average disparity drops from 15 percent to less than 2 percent

rayiner 9y ago

Inner city schools do not get less of the funding. Property taxes only account for half of K-12 funding. Federal and state grants to inner city and rural schools account for the other half. Here in Maryland, for example, Baltimore spends about the same as Montgomery County, a wealthy DC suburb. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2015/03/12/in-23-states-richer-school-districts-get-more-local-funding-than-poorer-districts/?utm_term=.ffc28de6334b https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2015/03/12/in-2.... > When federal dollars are included, just five states are spending less in their poorest districts than in their wealthiest. Nationwide, the average disparity drops from 15 percent to less than 2 percent.

baldfat 9y ago
> Inner city schools do not get less of the funding. These are all based on the public records, please consider why you stated that the funding is equal? Federal funding for education has also been less and less. http://www.openpagov.org/education_revenue_and_expenses.asp http://www.openpagov.org/education_revenue_and_expenses.asp (My city) Allentown SD per student = $13,949 (Next town over) Sailisbury SD per student = $21,519 (Highest in the state) Lower Merion SD per student = $28,495 Screen Shot of Data: https://imgur.com/a/DMjl7 https://imgur.com/a/DMjl7 http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pa-high-court-revives-school-funding-suit-20170928.html http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pa-high-court-revives-scho... "Here is ti challenge this statistics: Data from the National Center for Education Statistics shows that high-poverty school districts spent 15.6 percent less than those in the group with the least poverty. In Pennsylvania, that difference was 33 percent" Federal Funding title 1 for Inner City Schools funding per student is quite low, averaging about $500 to $600 a year. 50% of public schools qualify for federal money and the 14 billion works out to much less than most people believe. It amounts to a 5% increase in funding for some schools. https://www.brookings.edu/research/why-federal-spending-on-disadvantaged-students-title-i-doesnt-work/ https://www.brookings.edu/research/why-federal-spending-on-d... Here is the Heritage Foundations paper on how Inner City racial groups get more money and so there is no unequal funding problem based on race. This is just crazy statistics gymnastics. http://www.heritage.org/education/report/the-myth-racial-disparities-public-school-funding http://www.heritage.org/education/report/the-myth-racial-dis... My point is not race it is socioeconomic disparity at the school district level and Heritage wants to say school in districts favor the poorer schools. Poorer schools in School District isn't the problem it is school districts getting under funded. Funding isn't the answer but why should my daughter or son have 9 gym classes a year (School doesn't have a gym, nor a library room, and certainly no art class room) She also gets 9 art classes and 9 Music classes a year. They also don't get recess due to funding problems for monitors. My daughter in kindergarten got no recces from August till January. Though she had 2 hours of reading and 2 hours of math per day. http://www.macon.com/news/local/article28555831.html http://www.macon.com/news/local/article28555831.html
- rayiner 9y ago
  As you can see in the WaPo article I linked, Pennsylvania is a huge outlier. Nationwide, including state and federal funding, poor districts get only 1.7% less than rich districts. In many states, like Maryland where I live, poor districts receive slightly more funding.
  - baldfat 9y ago
    On average in USA poor inner city school receive 15% less. That's the actual numbers. Some states have a more fair funding system and than there is PA. BUT if you look at the bottom states in Education, Miss, WV, and VA they allocate less money to education. In PA a teacher makes about $42,000 first year and in WV you get $28,500.
    - rayiner 9y ago
      From the WaPo article I linked above: > When federal dollars are included, just five states are spending less in their poorest districts than in their wealthiest. Nationwide, the average disparity drops from 15 percent to less than 2 percent