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Well, what did he do?
by ohquu 9y ago
Well, what did he do?
- aviv 9y ago2nd amendment my friend. Note to criminals: don't try this in Arizona.
- dsacco 9y agoYour friend shot them?
- aviv 9y agoLuckily for them it didn't have to go that far, but he did pull it and they immediately took off. He then got in his car and called the police to report what happened.
- rhexs 9y agoSo he brandished a weapon when his life wasn't in danger? Isn't that illegal?
- aviv 9y agoHis life was most definitely in danger.
- dwild 9y agoThere seems to be missing something in your story to show danger. They just asked for his cash, nothing show any sign in danger in that. Would you pull out a gun because someone asked you for food too? Was there a threat? Which kind of threat? Did it look like these guys had the means to carry that threat and did it look like they actually were going to carry that threat? I wouldn't kill a guy in hope to get a few thousand dollars. There are cars that are worth much more than I could steal and risk much less than a homicide sentence (which I guess is pretty high in Arizona). I don't believe his life was in danger, but I'm also not living in a country where people think their life is constantly in danger and they have to carry gun for their safety. That mentality is dangerous in itself and may justify itself sadly. Having a gun in any interaction escalate way too quickly any risk.
- aviv 9y agoYou could have just asked before writing this entire comment. One of the men was holding a knife. As simple as that.
- Cyberdog 9y ago> They just asked for his cash, nothing show any sign in danger in that. Yeah, that's all they said. I'm sure there was no threat in their words or mannerisms at all. Certainly, if the victim had merely given these gentlemen a firm "no," they would have just shrugged their shoulders and walked away.
- Sir_Cmpwn 9y agoTwo guys demanding money from you doesn't sound like a dangerous situation to you? You're nuts. Even if his life wasn't in danger he was gonna get roughed up, and that's worth pulling your weapon for.
- lurr 9y agoDemanded cash. Only an asshole would pull a gun on some homeless man who asks if he has any spare change. It changes if they come up and demand money. Losing a couple thousand bucks would suck, and if that was guaranteed to be the end of it then I'd rather that be the end of it. The problem is you are dealing with people who are already willing to commit robbery, there is any number of ways that situation could get violent. Once it does then who knows what happens.
- solotronics 9y agoIn most states in the US you are definitely allowed to defend yourself and your property by brandishing and using a gun. "life, liberty, and property" -Locke
- skj 9y agoYour concept of danger diverges wildly from my own.
- sdfadfa 9y agoHis life doesn't have to be in danger to pull a gun! 1. He just has to justify that he had a reasonable fear for it. 2. Anyway he was protecting his property In fact, he did a very honest thing: he brandished his gun. Which means he showed the would be criminals that he was packing. Steps to shoot a would be assailant legally: 1. Show that you're packing 2. if the would be assailant doesn't leave, aim 3. if the would be assailant doesn't leave, shoot. Its a very fast, but choreographed dance. The point of it being that you don't just get to shoot anyone right away, you have to give them a chance to bugger off. Which they did. EDIT: I've never owned a gun and don't really want to own one (shooting is a lot of fun, but I don't want to be a gun owner). I might buy a .22 rifle (hardly relevant for this story)
- Blackthorn 9y agoEven in more restrictive states like New York (where I live), brandishing can be an acceptable threat response during a robbery.
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- cabaalis 9y agoGood for him, your friend has every right to protect his life and property. We could rely on police, but all the police can be guaranteed to protect is his body after they show up 5 minutes too late.