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Looking here: https://www.bakom.admin.ch/bakom/en/homepage/telecommunication/technology/deployment-of-optical-fibre-in-switzerland.html https://www.bakom.admin.

Looking here: https://www.bakom.admin.ch/bakom/en/homepage/telecommunication/technology/deployment-of-optical-fibre-in-switzerland.html https://www.bakom.admin.ch/bakom/en/homepage/telecommunicati... It seems Swisscom owns some lines, but not all of it. Like some of Swisscom Internet goes on lines that is not owned by them. I guess a lot of the households in the mountains and other large terrains do not have fiber. If you look here: https://map.geo.admin.ch/?topic=nga&mobile=false&lang=en&bgLayer=ch.swisstopo.pixelkarte-grau&catalogNodes=317,320,327,334,338&E=2568573.61&N=1220096.30&zoom=1&layers=ch.bakom.downlink100,ch.bakom.uplink100,ch.bakom.anschlussart-glasfaser&layers_opacity=0.75,0.75,0.75 https://map.geo.admin.ch/?topic=nga&mobile=false&lang=en&bgL... Plenty of households have >=100 Mbit/s Internet. This map pretty much covers the same area as "where most Swiss people live."

rayiner 9y ago
85% of Americans can also get 100 Mbps. It sounds like you might be in some place like Zurich, where the local power company deployed fiber and allows ISP to provide services over it. That’s a good model, but it’s not legally required. For the most part, Swiss telecom regulation is very similar to that in the United States.
- orf 9y ago
  And how much would that 100mbit cost on average in America? Paying about $35 for 100mbit fiber right now, with actual unlimited usage.
  - mitchty 9y ago
    I pay about $110/month for 105, so... a lot.
  - rayiner 9y ago
    Where are you? Swisscom charges $80/month for 100 Mbps symmetric fiber, which is a typical price for gigabit fiber in the US. https://www.swisscom.ch/en/residential/internet-television-fixednetwork/inone-home.html https://www.swisscom.ch/en/residential/internet-television-f.... Gigabit plus TV plus phone is about $140/month, which is the same as I pay for the same package here in Maryland. Comcast offers 100 down plus TV for $60/month here in MD.
    - orf 9y ago
      The UK, but my point was that just because people have access to something doesn't mean they can actually access it - if it's way too expensive for most people, for example. Similar thing with healthcare in the US I guess. I pay $50 a month for the internet and two mobile contracts, with 4GB data each and unlimited texts/minutes, from BT. TV is free (freeview, with hundreds of channels). You can pay for Sky or Virgin and get every channel ever, but why would you.
      - rayiner 9y ago
        It looks like BT is over $50 per month for 76/19 fiber alone: https://www.products.bt.com/broadband https://www.products.bt.com/broadband. That’s not a great deal compared to any US metro with fiber. Verizon offers 50/50 for $40, and AT&T offers 100/10 for $60. Am I missing something?
- chrisper 9y ago
  Do 85% of Americans actually get symmetric 100 Mbps?
  - rayiner 9y ago
    Most 100 Mbps service in the US is cable, so asymmetric. But I think fiber is the only widely deployed technology that can give you 100 Mbps symmetric. Fiber coverage in Switzerland is about 30%: https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/document.cfm?doc_id=47090 https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/document.cfm?doc_id=47090 (see page 30). So if most households can get 100 Mbps, it’s probably not symmetric, but asymmetric VDSL2 or cable.

rayiner 9y ago

85% of Americans can also get 100 Mbps. It sounds like you might be in some place like Zurich, where the local power company deployed fiber and allows ISP to provide services over it. That’s a good model, but it’s not legally required. For the most part, Swiss telecom regulation is very similar to that in the United States.

orf 9y ago
And how much would that 100mbit cost on average in America? Paying about $35 for 100mbit fiber right now, with actual unlimited usage.
- mitchty 9y ago
  I pay about $110/month for 105, so... a lot.
- rayiner 9y ago
  Where are you? Swisscom charges $80/month for 100 Mbps symmetric fiber, which is a typical price for gigabit fiber in the US. https://www.swisscom.ch/en/residential/internet-television-fixednetwork/inone-home.html https://www.swisscom.ch/en/residential/internet-television-f.... Gigabit plus TV plus phone is about $140/month, which is the same as I pay for the same package here in Maryland. Comcast offers 100 down plus TV for $60/month here in MD.
  - orf 9y ago
    The UK, but my point was that just because people have access to something doesn't mean they can actually access it - if it's way too expensive for most people, for example. Similar thing with healthcare in the US I guess. I pay $50 a month for the internet and two mobile contracts, with 4GB data each and unlimited texts/minutes, from BT. TV is free (freeview, with hundreds of channels). You can pay for Sky or Virgin and get every channel ever, but why would you.
    - rayiner 9y ago
      It looks like BT is over $50 per month for 76/19 fiber alone: https://www.products.bt.com/broadband https://www.products.bt.com/broadband. That’s not a great deal compared to any US metro with fiber. Verizon offers 50/50 for $40, and AT&T offers 100/10 for $60. Am I missing something?
chrisper 9y ago
Do 85% of Americans actually get symmetric 100 Mbps?
- rayiner 9y ago
  Most 100 Mbps service in the US is cable, so asymmetric. But I think fiber is the only widely deployed technology that can give you 100 Mbps symmetric. Fiber coverage in Switzerland is about 30%: https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/document.cfm?doc_id=47090 https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/document.cfm?doc_id=47090 (see page 30). So if most households can get 100 Mbps, it’s probably not symmetric, but asymmetric VDSL2 or cable.