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Interesting. This is a tangent about that article, as I hadn't read it before, but I live in that part of Brooklyn, have for a few years. Last year on J'ouver

Interesting. This is a tangent about that article, as I hadn't read it before, but I live in that part of Brooklyn, have for a few years. Last year on J'ouvert, 2 people were shot about two and a half blocks from my apartment building. This happened every J'ouvert until this most recent one. I'm fine with the extra police presence for that one. When I moved in, there were drug dealers on every corner, including mine. Going to work, I had to go past their pitbulls in the morning or walk in the street as they all crowded the sidewalk. That ended a few months ago. I've seen more police, and more police called for things like a drunk beating up and robbing another drunk where that used to just be let go - it's not all minor crimes, it's an attitude change as people move in that don't expect to have dangerous people and violence around them. Sure, they shouldn't necessarily call the cops on the guy barbecuing in the street at midnight, but honestly? I don't think it's a really bad thing.

Helmet 9y ago
>I don't think it's a really bad thing. Who in their right mind would? Uppity liberals and fringe left-wing protesters affiliated with various left-wing identitarian groups. The rest of us, rich, poor, middle-class, black, white, whatever, would prefer our neighborhoods to be safe, and not filled with gang violence and drugs. But this doesn't fit their narrative, so here we are.
- objectivetruth 9y ago
  So, in your world, there are: * uppity liberals and fringe left-wing protestors * "the rest of us" Interesting. Lots of people on both sides of the aisle admit that there are uppity conservatives and fringe right-wing protestors, but you neglected to mention them. Do you feel that you're "in the middle" and not a conservative?
  - Helmet 9y ago
    What? I was painting broadly the social demographic of the people that push this sort of nonsense - it usually is uppity liberals and fringe radicals. People who actually care about their neighborhoods call the police when there are homicides, drug dealing, and violence occurring. > there are uppity conservatives and fringe right-wing protestors Yes, and I'm one of those uppity conservatives. I hold the fringe right-wing guys in contempt, but I don't see the relevance? If you want me to rail on them, I will gladly. >Do you feel that you're "in the middle" and not a conservative? Libertarian I guess? Grew up in a poor neighborhood much like the one described in the article, so I feel quite strongly about this sort of stuff. A larger police presence would have been a gift from God.

Helmet 9y ago

>I don't think it's a really bad thing. Who in their right mind would? Uppity liberals and fringe left-wing protesters affiliated with various left-wing identitarian groups. The rest of us, rich, poor, middle-class, black, white, whatever, would prefer our neighborhoods to be safe, and not filled with gang violence and drugs. But this doesn't fit their narrative, so here we are.

objectivetruth 9y ago
So, in your world, there are: * uppity liberals and fringe left-wing protestors * "the rest of us" Interesting. Lots of people on both sides of the aisle admit that there are uppity conservatives and fringe right-wing protestors, but you neglected to mention them. Do you feel that you're "in the middle" and not a conservative?
- Helmet 9y ago
  What? I was painting broadly the social demographic of the people that push this sort of nonsense - it usually is uppity liberals and fringe radicals. People who actually care about their neighborhoods call the police when there are homicides, drug dealing, and violence occurring. > there are uppity conservatives and fringe right-wing protestors Yes, and I'm one of those uppity conservatives. I hold the fringe right-wing guys in contempt, but I don't see the relevance? If you want me to rail on them, I will gladly. >Do you feel that you're "in the middle" and not a conservative? Libertarian I guess? Grew up in a poor neighborhood much like the one described in the article, so I feel quite strongly about this sort of stuff. A larger police presence would have been a gift from God.