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The real question is why people care so much about working for Google. If you're good, then you'll find success with or without Google, and if you're not good,

by tabeth 9y ago

The real question is why people care so much about working for Google. If you're good, then you'll find success with or without Google, and if you're not good, then why would one complain about Google not hiring them when you don't even believe in your own ability. It's bizarre, really.

mattgreenrocks 9y ago
Thank you. Tech’s constant lionizing of the Big Five is noxious. Feels just like high school. Falsehoods programmers believe: all the best devs work at the Big Five.
j4ship 9y ago
hes not good , if he was he would be hired by google ... this is the silver lining here folks. Big personality , decent coder ... but google level tech guy? Good enough to be among the best (the kind google go for) I guess not? Lets see who picks him up but if he gets some kind of manager position at a startup we can be assured hes more talk then tech. Hard worker and organized results driven guy maybe, but some people dont really have the skill to be great engineers. This guy got to the big leagues and realized that outside of the OSX world we care about hard engineering performance and scaling optimizations, not so much the rounded corners and glossy ui. Google makes alpha-zero, what are they going to do with a guy like Max. Even he admits his application is not feature complete, so hes not even a "finisher". I think they let him down easy , saying it was not a good culture fit , instead of telling him like it is, hes just not good enough. Question: Do you think there is not a person at google with a worse personality than Max? I bet there are and I bet they out perform all of us in this thread. If they "should" have hired you , they would have hired you Max. They would have found a place for you.
linkregister 9y ago
I don’t think it’s irrational that programmers would want to work for the firm with the recognizable prestige and among the highest industry-leading compensation. I could get offers at Jane Street or Two Sigma for more money, doing potentially way more interesting things, but my mom isn’t going to brag to her friends about it. This is notwithstanding that many people would likely recognize the prestige of those companies within tech and finance circles.
dilyevsky 9y ago
Simple - $$$ and prestige, that's why. If you play your cards right, Google is one of very few companies in the area that will make you absolutely ridiculous (for the level) offer in practically all cash, not some faint promise of payout some time in future. Then, once you have Google on your resume, it opens opportunity to at least start a conversation with almost any other company you wish to work for.
abiox 9y ago
> The real question is why people care so much about working for Google well, one answer is easy: resume material.
- mattgreenrocks 9y ago
  Careerism, one of the traits of a great hacker.

by tabeth 9y ago

mattgreenrocks 9y ago

Thank you. Tech’s constant lionizing of the Big Five is noxious. Feels just like high school. Falsehoods programmers believe: all the best devs work at the Big Five.

j4ship 9y ago

hes not good , if he was he would be hired by google ... this is the silver lining here folks. Big personality , decent coder ... but google level tech guy? Good enough to be among the best (the kind google go for) I guess not? Lets see who picks him up but if he gets some kind of manager position at a startup we can be assured hes more talk then tech. Hard worker and organized results driven guy maybe, but some people dont really have the skill to be great engineers. This guy got to the big leagues and realized that outside of the OSX world we care about hard engineering performance and scaling optimizations, not so much the rounded corners and glossy ui. Google makes alpha-zero, what are they going to do with a guy like Max. Even he admits his application is not feature complete, so hes not even a "finisher". I think they let him down easy , saying it was not a good culture fit , instead of telling him like it is, hes just not good enough. Question: Do you think there is not a person at google with a worse personality than Max? I bet there are and I bet they out perform all of us in this thread. If they "should" have hired you , they would have hired you Max. They would have found a place for you.

linkregister 9y ago

I don’t think it’s irrational that programmers would want to work for the firm with the recognizable prestige and among the highest industry-leading compensation. I could get offers at Jane Street or Two Sigma for more money, doing potentially way more interesting things, but my mom isn’t going to brag to her friends about it. This is notwithstanding that many people would likely recognize the prestige of those companies within tech and finance circles.

dilyevsky 9y ago

Simple - $$$ and prestige, that's why. If you play your cards right, Google is one of very few companies in the area that will make you absolutely ridiculous (for the level) offer in practically all cash, not some faint promise of payout some time in future. Then, once you have Google on your resume, it opens opportunity to at least start a conversation with almost any other company you wish to work for.

abiox 9y ago

> The real question is why people care so much about working for Google well, one answer is easy: resume material.

mattgreenrocks 9y ago
Careerism, one of the traits of a great hacker.