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> This inability to separate emotions and passions from cooperating on a shared focus with others, of differing emotions and passions, but equal interest in the

> This inability to separate emotions and passions from cooperating on a shared focus with others, of differing emotions and passions, but equal interest in the shared focus (community) is deeply damaging. However, I see people's personalities informing how they behave in their occupation all day, every day. The notion you can subconsciously remove all of your biases before undertaking a project is, surely, inherently flawed? We also deal with associations - the body of your work will be judged based on its context. Its context comes from who you are, what you believe, and your values (both work and personal based). Of course an artists' work will be looked at differently if they're a UFO believer or not. Of course people will question whether someone championing an inclusive organisation can really not support gay marriage. Of course people will look at the works of Roman Polanski through a different lens because of allegations. It's not enforced "political correctness" it's default behaviour of humans to make these links, correct or not. Personally, I'm tired of the "leave politics to your political circles" response - politics has an impact on your worldview and thus influences your work. I'm not claiming everyone should hold the same views, but the expectation that people with diametrically opposed outlooks on the world should "just get along" for the sake of a project seems absurd to me. It's why most companies have values, and is pretty much the only non-BS use of "company culture".

philwelch 9y ago
So I’m assuming you’re comfortable with Hollywood blacklisting communist screenwriters?
creaghpatr 9y ago
>...but the expectation that people with diametrically opposed outlooks on the world should "just get along" for the sake of a project seems absurd to me. It's why most companies have values, and is pretty much the only non-BS use of "company culture". Replace 'outlooks' with 'skin color' and you can see why some people think that people should, in fact, "just get along".
- wastedhours 9y ago
  My point wasn't that they shouldn't work together, but that just expecting that person, in your example, a closet racist, would lay that at the door when working with someone of another skin colour on a project seems fantastical. There will always be friction between people based on their views - expecting everyone in a project to only be giving one part of themselves (only the bit relevant to the project) is ridiculous. I guess a roundabout way of saying you need to take people as the wholes that they are, not just cherry pick the parts you like and expect the rest to have no impact.
- joshuamorton 9y ago
  It goes without saying that this is a false equivalency, and yet here I am. There is no way someone's skin color, in isolation, can impact me. If I know someone's views though, that means that they must have already taken some action that expressed those views.
  - creaghpatr 9y ago
    >There is no way someone's skin color, in isolation, can impact me. That is empirically false, and one's skin color is never in isolation so its irrelevant. Everyone is subject to unconscious implicit bias (not just racial). http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-40124781 http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-40124781
    - joshuamorton 9y ago
      I'm well aware of implicit bias, and making a totally orthogonal statement. I'm specifically talking about how another person's skin color would affect me, not how I might change my behavior of them based on their skin color. Their skin color does not affect me. Their skin color might affect how I treat them, and my skin color might affect how they treat me, but their skin color does not affect me.
      - explainplease 9y ago
        You don't seem to understand: "I'm specifically talking about how another person's view would affect me, not how I might change my behavior of them based on their view. Their view does not affect me. Their view might affect how I treat them, and my view might affect how they treat me, but their view does not affect me." It's no different.

philwelch 9y ago

So I’m assuming you’re comfortable with Hollywood blacklisting communist screenwriters?

creaghpatr 9y ago

>...but the expectation that people with diametrically opposed outlooks on the world should "just get along" for the sake of a project seems absurd to me. It's why most companies have values, and is pretty much the only non-BS use of "company culture". Replace 'outlooks' with 'skin color' and you can see why some people think that people should, in fact, "just get along".

wastedhours 9y ago
My point wasn't that they shouldn't work together, but that just expecting that person, in your example, a closet racist, would lay that at the door when working with someone of another skin colour on a project seems fantastical. There will always be friction between people based on their views - expecting everyone in a project to only be giving one part of themselves (only the bit relevant to the project) is ridiculous. I guess a roundabout way of saying you need to take people as the wholes that they are, not just cherry pick the parts you like and expect the rest to have no impact.
joshuamorton 9y ago
It goes without saying that this is a false equivalency, and yet here I am. There is no way someone's skin color, in isolation, can impact me. If I know someone's views though, that means that they must have already taken some action that expressed those views.
- creaghpatr 9y ago
  >There is no way someone's skin color, in isolation, can impact me. That is empirically false, and one's skin color is never in isolation so its irrelevant. Everyone is subject to unconscious implicit bias (not just racial). http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-40124781 http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-40124781
  - joshuamorton 9y ago
    I'm well aware of implicit bias, and making a totally orthogonal statement. I'm specifically talking about how another person's skin color would affect me, not how I might change my behavior of them based on their skin color. Their skin color does not affect me. Their skin color might affect how I treat them, and my skin color might affect how they treat me, but their skin color does not affect me.
    - explainplease 9y ago
      You don't seem to understand: "I'm specifically talking about how another person's view would affect me, not how I might change my behavior of them based on their view. Their view does not affect me. Their view might affect how I treat them, and my view might affect how they treat me, but their view does not affect me." It's no different.