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Careful! Your crime predictor might unfairly conclude that men are more likely to commit crimes than women.

jhiska 9y ago
OP wants an open sourced, data-based statistical model of where crime might occur (methodological flaws and all), and not an unasked-for politicized preaching about the supposed virtues of a subset of people over another subset of people.
- platz 9y ago
  As long as the methodological flaws are someone else's problem (the user/consumer), we don't need to take responsibility for building the tools that facilitate those methodological flaws, right?
  - jhiska 9y ago
    I agree. I don't want the police using biased tools either. OP has stated elsewhere in the comments that the reason they're interested in the tech is for testing it in some other unrelated area.
    - platz 9y ago
      I don't see the OP making a claim like that. In any case, OP did not specify what the purpose of the tool was/is, and doesn't seem to be willing to explain the purpose of the the tool is.
michaelmcmillan 9y ago
Reductio ad absurdum of the bias argument (-:
dahart 9y ago
People might conclude the same thing, since more crimes are committed by males than females. Are you saying it's unfair because an innocent male could become a suspect by virtue of only being male? Or for a more subtle reason? Statistics have been consistent in reporting that men commit more criminal acts than women.[1][2] Self-reported delinquent acts are also higher for men than women across many different actions.[3] Burton, et al. (1998) found that low levels of self control are associated with criminal activity.[4] Many professionals have offered explanations for this sex difference. Some differing explanations include men's evolutionary tendency toward risk and violent behavior, sex differences in activity, social support, and gender inequality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime
Torgo 9y ago
It would be right.
otakucode 9y ago
Or worse, it might actually mention out loud that white collar crime kills more people and costs far more money to society every year than street crime, and mention that white collar crime is completely normalized and not even seen as deviant within upper class communities. What are you supposed to do then? Actually arrest the rich for the harm they do?

OP wants an open sourced, data-based statistical model of where crime might occur (methodological flaws and all), and not an unasked-for politicized preaching about the supposed virtues of a subset of people over another subset of people.

platz 9y ago
As long as the methodological flaws are someone else's problem (the user/consumer), we don't need to take responsibility for building the tools that facilitate those methodological flaws, right?
- jhiska 9y ago
  I agree. I don't want the police using biased tools either. OP has stated elsewhere in the comments that the reason they're interested in the tech is for testing it in some other unrelated area.
  - platz 9y ago
    I don't see the OP making a claim like that. In any case, OP did not specify what the purpose of the tool was/is, and doesn't seem to be willing to explain the purpose of the the tool is.

michaelmcmillan 9y ago

Reductio ad absurdum of the bias argument (-:

dahart 9y ago

People might conclude the same thing, since more crimes are committed by males than females. Are you saying it's unfair because an innocent male could become a suspect by virtue of only being male? Or for a more subtle reason? Statistics have been consistent in reporting that men commit more criminal acts than women.[1][2] Self-reported delinquent acts are also higher for men than women across many different actions.[3] Burton, et al. (1998) found that low levels of self control are associated with criminal activity.[4] Many professionals have offered explanations for this sex difference. Some differing explanations include men's evolutionary tendency toward risk and violent behavior, sex differences in activity, social support, and gender inequality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime

Torgo 9y ago

It would be right.

otakucode 9y ago

Or worse, it might actually mention out loud that white collar crime kills more people and costs far more money to society every year than street crime, and mention that white collar crime is completely normalized and not even seen as deviant within upper class communities. What are you supposed to do then? Actually arrest the rich for the harm they do?