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Calling EU collectivist is a stretch.

by adamnemecek 9y ago

tabeth 9y ago
I didn't mention the EU once in my comment, so I'm a bit confused.
- adamnemecek 9y ago
  It's a comment in response to an article comparing Europe and US?
  - tabeth 9y ago
    So? I still didn't say the EU is collectivist or mention it at all. Both EU and the US have collectivist and individualist policies.
    - adamnemecek 9y ago
      "I don't think Americans will ever be convinced collectivism is superior until there's some organization or company created within the States that ends up being far superior to everything else."
      - tabeth 9y ago
        Not following you -- even in your quote I don't mention the EU.
        adamnemecek 9y ago
        The article does. I don't have time for this.
        rusk 9y ago
        Well you should have made your comment at the top-level then instead of trying to piggy-back.
        tabeth 9y ago
        Exactly. Not sure why you replied to my original comment with "calling EU collectivist is a stretch" when I didn't mention the EU. You should reply to the top most post, not me, it sounds like. It's really not a big deal, :).
rusk 9y ago
Who mentioned EU? There's a broad mixture of different political approaches right across the EU. Some of the wealthier states do appear to have a strong social-democratic leaning but maybe that's just 'cause they can afford it? A comprehensive socioeconomic fabric costs a lot to maintain. You have to have a base of taxpayers who are willing to pay it and who feel they get the value for their money.
- adamnemecek 9y ago
  The article. Also, those European countries don't have tax rates much larger (if at all) than the US. It's just that in the US, it gets wasted.
  - rusk 9y ago
    Oh but they do. You'll pay up to 2/3 of your income in taxes in Germany for instance.
    - adamnemecek 9y ago
      Highest rate in Germany seems to be 45%.
      - rusk 9y ago
        Where'd you read that Wikipedia? My payslips from working in Germany beg to differ ...
    - majidazimi 9y ago
      Isn't the maximum percentage for singles with no kids in tax category 0, which is around 40%?
      - rusk 9y ago
        income tax yeah but there's a whole heap of levies and surcharges on top of that

Calling EU collectivist is a stretch.

tabeth 9y ago

I didn't mention the EU once in my comment, so I'm a bit confused.

adamnemecek 9y ago
It's a comment in response to an article comparing Europe and US?
- tabeth 9y ago
  So? I still didn't say the EU is collectivist or mention it at all. Both EU and the US have collectivist and individualist policies.
  - adamnemecek 9y ago
    "I don't think Americans will ever be convinced collectivism is superior until there's some organization or company created within the States that ends up being far superior to everything else."
    - tabeth 9y ago
      Not following you -- even in your quote I don't mention the EU.
      - adamnemecek 9y ago
        The article does. I don't have time for this.
        rusk 9y ago
        Well you should have made your comment at the top-level then instead of trying to piggy-back.
        tabeth 9y ago
        Exactly. Not sure why you replied to my original comment with "calling EU collectivist is a stretch" when I didn't mention the EU. You should reply to the top most post, not me, it sounds like. It's really not a big deal, :).

rusk 9y ago

Who mentioned EU? There's a broad mixture of different political approaches right across the EU. Some of the wealthier states do appear to have a strong social-democratic leaning but maybe that's just 'cause they can afford it? A comprehensive socioeconomic fabric costs a lot to maintain. You have to have a base of taxpayers who are willing to pay it and who feel they get the value for their money.

adamnemecek 9y ago
The article. Also, those European countries don't have tax rates much larger (if at all) than the US. It's just that in the US, it gets wasted.
- rusk 9y ago
  Oh but they do. You'll pay up to 2/3 of your income in taxes in Germany for instance.
  - adamnemecek 9y ago
    Highest rate in Germany seems to be 45%.
    - rusk 9y ago
      Where'd you read that Wikipedia? My payslips from working in Germany beg to differ ...
  - majidazimi 9y ago
    Isn't the maximum percentage for singles with no kids in tax category 0, which is around 40%?
    - rusk 9y ago
      income tax yeah but there's a whole heap of levies and surcharges on top of that