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I suspect the answer is not, in fact, that simple.

by codinghorror 9y ago

Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
I encourage you to submit counterexamples. I'm about to get on a plane, though, I'll have to present my counterargument in a few hours.
- viraptor 9y ago
  The article contains counterexamples. You can start from those if you really think they're not reasonable (i.e. the answer is never)
  - Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
    The only tangible example I really see in the article is the following: >For instance, if someone acts entirely reasonably within your community but engages in lengthy anti-semitic screeds on 4chan, it's legitimate to question whether permitting them to continue being part of your community serves your community's best interests. s/anti-semetic/anti-abortion/ s/anti-semetic/pro-abortion/ s/anti-semetic/pro-trump/ s/anti-semetic/non-religious/ What do all of these have in common? Answer: absolutely no relevance to the project. If your software is an app that serves the Jewish community and some participant was an anti-semite, then okay, maybe you should eject them. If your project is almost anything else, then leave your opinions at the door and engage with them respectfully so long as they grant you the same courtesy.
    - viraptor 9y ago
      You're mistaking a claim that a group of people based on their ethno-religious background is either worthless or to be blamed for multiple world issues (which historically led to killing them) with an opinion we can be respectful about.
      - Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
        I wouldn't expect you to be respectful of their opinion should it ever turn up in the course of your dealings with them as part of engaging in the community. But if it doesn't come up, you have no cause to be exclusive to such a person.
- VLM 9y ago
  The pilot's opinions are a perfectly good example, must communities shun that airline as religiously impure if an individual pilot disagrees in any way with current authoritarian enforced doctrine?

4 ms·

I suspect the answer is not, in fact, that simple.

by codinghorror 9y ago

I suspect the answer is not, in fact, that simple.

Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
I encourage you to submit counterexamples. I'm about to get on a plane, though, I'll have to present my counterargument in a few hours.
- viraptor 9y ago
  The article contains counterexamples. You can start from those if you really think they're not reasonable (i.e. the answer is never)
  - Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
    The only tangible example I really see in the article is the following: >For instance, if someone acts entirely reasonably within your community but engages in lengthy anti-semitic screeds on 4chan, it's legitimate to question whether permitting them to continue being part of your community serves your community's best interests. s/anti-semetic/anti-abortion/ s/anti-semetic/pro-abortion/ s/anti-semetic/pro-trump/ s/anti-semetic/non-religious/ What do all of these have in common? Answer: absolutely no relevance to the project. If your software is an app that serves the Jewish community and some participant was an anti-semite, then okay, maybe you should eject them. If your project is almost anything else, then leave your opinions at the door and engage with them respectfully so long as they grant you the same courtesy.
    - viraptor 9y ago
      You're mistaking a claim that a group of people based on their ethno-religious background is either worthless or to be blamed for multiple world issues (which historically led to killing them) with an opinion we can be respectful about.
      - Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
        I wouldn't expect you to be respectful of their opinion should it ever turn up in the course of your dealings with them as part of engaging in the community. But if it doesn't come up, you have no cause to be exclusive to such a person.
- VLM 9y ago
  The pilot's opinions are a perfectly good example, must communities shun that airline as religiously impure if an individual pilot disagrees in any way with current authoritarian enforced doctrine?