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> American cities are so far behind. D.C. is probably one of the best metros, but NYC and Chicago, while having quite extensive systems for very large cities, h

> American cities are so far behind. D.C. is probably one of the best metros, but NYC and Chicago, while having quite extensive systems for very large cities, have no budget to expand or move them into the future. Related to this. We're finally starting to get rid of the stupid metrocards and switching to a tap/scan system. I saw one at 34th on the A/C/E line (34th & 8th West side entrance), just one turnstile had it so guessing they are just testing it there. Baby steps. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/23/nyregion/metrocard-subway-new-york.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/23/nyregion/metrocard-subway...

adrianN 9y ago
You realize that the article admonishes exactly this kind of modernization? Switching to a different ticket system does nothing for poorly maintained infrastructure, except sucking away much needed budget.
- Stefstefstef 9y ago
  In The Netherlands, the transit card create a great deal of budget. By having a digital card that you need to top up. You end up with money on a card that isn't used. Thus the transit company suddenly has €20-€50 extra cash available per train user. The intrest even generates pretty good money I can imagine
  - mattmanser 9y ago
    In the London Underground (and on the london buses) you can literally tap your contact-less debit or credit card. Just charged the cheapest rate for the route you took, which automatically caps per day or week on how much you pay, if you do multiple journeys, to be like an "all-day" or "all-week" pass.
    - deadbunny 9y ago
      Yup, I even got a refund the other day automatically. Not sure why as the tube wasn't really any worse than usual but hey, it was a free journey.
  - aninhumer 9y ago
    Surely that's mostly a one-off cash injection though? Once all the regular commuters have their cards, you're not going to get much more. There will still be some extra from visitors, and new commuters over time but it doesn't seem like long term you'd see that much revenue increase.
    - AndyMcConachie 9y ago
      Don't forget tourists and other visitors. They buy cards with too much money and then never spend it. It is a constant source of revenue.
- kevin_thibedeau 9y ago
  They can't do zone pricing with metrocard. Tap to enter and exit does.

adrianN 9y ago

You realize that the article admonishes exactly this kind of modernization? Switching to a different ticket system does nothing for poorly maintained infrastructure, except sucking away much needed budget.

Stefstefstef 9y ago
In The Netherlands, the transit card create a great deal of budget. By having a digital card that you need to top up. You end up with money on a card that isn't used. Thus the transit company suddenly has €20-€50 extra cash available per train user. The intrest even generates pretty good money I can imagine
- mattmanser 9y ago
  In the London Underground (and on the london buses) you can literally tap your contact-less debit or credit card. Just charged the cheapest rate for the route you took, which automatically caps per day or week on how much you pay, if you do multiple journeys, to be like an "all-day" or "all-week" pass.
  - deadbunny 9y ago
    Yup, I even got a refund the other day automatically. Not sure why as the tube wasn't really any worse than usual but hey, it was a free journey.
- aninhumer 9y ago
  Surely that's mostly a one-off cash injection though? Once all the regular commuters have their cards, you're not going to get much more. There will still be some extra from visitors, and new commuters over time but it doesn't seem like long term you'd see that much revenue increase.
  - AndyMcConachie 9y ago
    Don't forget tourists and other visitors. They buy cards with too much money and then never spend it. It is a constant source of revenue.
kevin_thibedeau 9y ago
They can't do zone pricing with metrocard. Tap to enter and exit does.