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I mean; that’s fine. I wouldn’t want that job either — it’s why I got an MBA, got out of the tech side and now actually have power over hires/fires and product

I mean; that’s fine. I wouldn’t want that job either — it’s why I got an MBA, got out of the tech side and now actually have power over hires/fires and product direction. But unless you’re directly bringing revenue in the door, you are a cost item to be cut. As soon as they can find someone cheaper, they will.

btilly 9y ago
Don't worry, I'm OK. Lots of companies are smart enough to figure out that it is cheaper to hire competent people than to accept the boneheaded mistakes that the cheapest warm body would make. Besides, the ones that don't figure it out are no fun to work at. Who wants to be on the side that's bound to lose in the long run? I just wish that they did less collateral damage on their way down.
doktrin 9y ago
> As soon as they can find someone cheaper, they will. This applies to everyone everywhere, and particularly positions that anyone with basic language and reasoning skills can fill (PMs, MBA types, etc)
- exelius 9y ago
  Naw, the MBA jobs are all about personal brand and networking. When you make the rules, they tend to benefit you.
  - doktrin 9y ago
    > MBA jobs are all about personal brand and networking No disagreement there. Just in my experience those jobs are either the first or second to go when things get tough - often because there's an MBA somewhere near the top who recognizes how replaceable all the rest are.
    - exelius 9y ago
      Yeah, but these jobs also often have contracts with severance packages. Executives (VP and above) are typically hired under fixed contracts that make it very expensive to get rid of them. You can demand these things if you have specialized knowledge, credentials, and relationships.
      - doktrin 9y ago
        > Executives (VP and above) Aren't you being overly restrictive in scope here? Many executives are MBAs, but most MBAs are not executives.
        exelius 9y ago
        True; but stalling out in middle management is never the reason people get an MBA.
        doktrin 9y ago
        Waiting tables in Hollywood is never the reason people take up acting, and yet so it goes. Anecdotally, I know several full time top 10 grads who aren't exactly on the fast track to the c-suite, and I assume this is even more true for the broader pool of MBAs.

btilly 9y ago

Don't worry, I'm OK. Lots of companies are smart enough to figure out that it is cheaper to hire competent people than to accept the boneheaded mistakes that the cheapest warm body would make. Besides, the ones that don't figure it out are no fun to work at. Who wants to be on the side that's bound to lose in the long run? I just wish that they did less collateral damage on their way down.

doktrin 9y ago

> As soon as they can find someone cheaper, they will. This applies to everyone everywhere, and particularly positions that anyone with basic language and reasoning skills can fill (PMs, MBA types, etc)

exelius 9y ago
Naw, the MBA jobs are all about personal brand and networking. When you make the rules, they tend to benefit you.
- doktrin 9y ago
  > MBA jobs are all about personal brand and networking No disagreement there. Just in my experience those jobs are either the first or second to go when things get tough - often because there's an MBA somewhere near the top who recognizes how replaceable all the rest are.
  - exelius 9y ago
    Yeah, but these jobs also often have contracts with severance packages. Executives (VP and above) are typically hired under fixed contracts that make it very expensive to get rid of them. You can demand these things if you have specialized knowledge, credentials, and relationships.
    - doktrin 9y ago
      > Executives (VP and above) Aren't you being overly restrictive in scope here? Many executives are MBAs, but most MBAs are not executives.
      - exelius 9y ago
        True; but stalling out in middle management is never the reason people get an MBA.
        doktrin 9y ago
        Waiting tables in Hollywood is never the reason people take up acting, and yet so it goes. Anecdotally, I know several full time top 10 grads who aren't exactly on the fast track to the c-suite, and I assume this is even more true for the broader pool of MBAs.