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119 for a $5 battery is not reasonable.

by Justin_K 9y ago

jackvalentine 9y ago
With installation and warranty on the work carried out it's entirely reasonable.
- Justin_K 9y ago
  That's just bullshit overhead that Apple likes to bake in. How about a removable battery so customers arent screwed every 2 years?
  - jackvalentine 9y ago
    Like a car you're welcome to do it yourself, or take it somewhere else if you think it's a better deal. Edit: just got a quote for an iphone 7+ battery replacement from one of the mall kiosks here: $120. If there is so much fat in the cost surely they'd at least undercut Apple by $20 to get the business. Removable batteries are a completely different conversation but you can still buy phones with them so go ahead and indulge yourself.
    - petecox 9y ago
      I bought a replacement battery kit for my non-Apple phone on ebay for about $AU15 - it came with tools to jimmy open the case and unscrew the housing. Undoubtedly genuine Apple batteries may be better quality but that's still ~$100 for labour.
      - jackvalentine 9y ago
        I mean I know this is supposed to be a hacker community and all, but there is no way I'd bother. Housemate did his girlfriend's iPhone 5 and just ruined it. You're not only paying for the labour, but also a guarantee the phone will work as intended after and warranty on the replacement. $100 is cheap for that.
        dozzie 9y ago
        > Housemate did his girlfriend's iPhone 5 and just ruined it. Because it is designed to prevent user from replacing battery, so you pay $100 for opening the lid, taking out the battery, putting in the new one, and closing the lid. $100 is nowhere near cheap for something that should be safe to do for the user.
        jackvalentine 9y ago
        The user replaceable battery is gone - get over it. We can only deal with what actually exists. $100 _is_ cheap for the phone as it currently stands.
        dozzie 9y ago
        > The user replaceable battery is gone - get over it. Only if you're Apple's fanboy. Virtually anybody else still has replaceable battery.
        jackvalentine 9y ago
        Only the LGv20 has a replaceable battery out of all the flagships.
        Justin_K 9y ago
        Galaxy Note 4? Stop the fanboy madness and demand a better product. Apple is laughing all the way to the bank on suckers like you.
        jackvalentine 9y ago
        Galaxy note 4 came out in 2014 - it is irrelevant to the conversation of buying a new phone. You can only get removable batteries in a 1 year old flagship or midrange devices now - feel free to buy them if you feel so strongly about it. Please don’t use accusations like “fanboy” and “suckers like you” it’s rude and in bad faith. I’ve had about a dozen phones over the last decade including Samsung phones, LG nexus phones, HTC phones and even a Palm Pixi at one point. There is no fanboying here - and you’re just a jerk for making such a pointlessly derailing smear. By having to rely on the fanboy smear it’s clear that you have nothing else to rely on.
- Justin_K 9y ago
  So even Apple has now recognized that their price was unreasonable and bad for customers. https://www.apple.com/iphone-battery-and-performance/ https://www.apple.com/iphone-battery-and-performance/ "Apple is reducing the price of an out-of-warranty iPhone battery replacement by $50 — from $79 to $29 — for anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced, starting in late January and available worldwide through December 2018. Details will be provided soon on apple.com."
narrator 9y ago
I paid $10 for my brand new Galaxy Note 4 battery and it took 30 seconds to replace. My note 4 isn't slow at all either. It's the end of Moore's law and they are going to start pulling this stuff so you upgrade, because the new phones just aren't that much better. Meanwhile, I'll stick to Note 4s still they stop making them and I can't get them used. Perfect phone, imho.
- kennydude 9y ago
  Was it an actual Samsung one? Off-brand batteries can be dodgy and not have the correct protection circuitry.
  - narrator 9y ago
    I trusted the 258 reviews at 4 1/2 stars ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072KJRJ45 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072KJRJ45 ). I have had it for 6 months. It works great and I haven't had any problems.

119 for a $5 battery is not reasonable.

jackvalentine 9y ago

With installation and warranty on the work carried out it's entirely reasonable.

Justin_K 9y ago
That's just bullshit overhead that Apple likes to bake in. How about a removable battery so customers arent screwed every 2 years?
- jackvalentine 9y ago
  Like a car you're welcome to do it yourself, or take it somewhere else if you think it's a better deal. Edit: just got a quote for an iphone 7+ battery replacement from one of the mall kiosks here: $120. If there is so much fat in the cost surely they'd at least undercut Apple by $20 to get the business. Removable batteries are a completely different conversation but you can still buy phones with them so go ahead and indulge yourself.
  - petecox 9y ago
    I bought a replacement battery kit for my non-Apple phone on ebay for about $AU15 - it came with tools to jimmy open the case and unscrew the housing. Undoubtedly genuine Apple batteries may be better quality but that's still ~$100 for labour.
    - jackvalentine 9y ago
      I mean I know this is supposed to be a hacker community and all, but there is no way I'd bother. Housemate did his girlfriend's iPhone 5 and just ruined it. You're not only paying for the labour, but also a guarantee the phone will work as intended after and warranty on the replacement. $100 is cheap for that.
      - dozzie 9y ago
        > Housemate did his girlfriend's iPhone 5 and just ruined it. Because it is designed to prevent user from replacing battery, so you pay $100 for opening the lid, taking out the battery, putting in the new one, and closing the lid. $100 is nowhere near cheap for something that should be safe to do for the user.
        jackvalentine 9y ago
        The user replaceable battery is gone - get over it. We can only deal with what actually exists. $100 _is_ cheap for the phone as it currently stands.
        dozzie 9y ago
        > The user replaceable battery is gone - get over it. Only if you're Apple's fanboy. Virtually anybody else still has replaceable battery.
        jackvalentine 9y ago
        Only the LGv20 has a replaceable battery out of all the flagships.
        Justin_K 9y ago
        Galaxy Note 4? Stop the fanboy madness and demand a better product. Apple is laughing all the way to the bank on suckers like you.
        jackvalentine 9y ago
        Galaxy note 4 came out in 2014 - it is irrelevant to the conversation of buying a new phone. You can only get removable batteries in a 1 year old flagship or midrange devices now - feel free to buy them if you feel so strongly about it. Please don’t use accusations like “fanboy” and “suckers like you” it’s rude and in bad faith. I’ve had about a dozen phones over the last decade including Samsung phones, LG nexus phones, HTC phones and even a Palm Pixi at one point. There is no fanboying here - and you’re just a jerk for making such a pointlessly derailing smear. By having to rely on the fanboy smear it’s clear that you have nothing else to rely on.
Justin_K 9y ago
So even Apple has now recognized that their price was unreasonable and bad for customers. https://www.apple.com/iphone-battery-and-performance/ https://www.apple.com/iphone-battery-and-performance/ "Apple is reducing the price of an out-of-warranty iPhone battery replacement by $50 — from $79 to $29 — for anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced, starting in late January and available worldwide through December 2018. Details will be provided soon on apple.com."

narrator 9y ago

I paid $10 for my brand new Galaxy Note 4 battery and it took 30 seconds to replace. My note 4 isn't slow at all either. It's the end of Moore's law and they are going to start pulling this stuff so you upgrade, because the new phones just aren't that much better. Meanwhile, I'll stick to Note 4s still they stop making them and I can't get them used. Perfect phone, imho.

kennydude 9y ago
Was it an actual Samsung one? Off-brand batteries can be dodgy and not have the correct protection circuitry.
- narrator 9y ago
  I trusted the 258 reviews at 4 1/2 stars ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072KJRJ45 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072KJRJ45 ). I have had it for 6 months. It works great and I haven't had any problems.