It's all during boot or shutdown... >I like how people somehow breathlessly say "systemd developers prove they don't know shit, of course its their fault!!!" a

It's all during boot or shutdown... >I like how people somehow breathlessly say "systemd developers prove they don't know shit, of course its their fault!!!" and then immediately follow it up with a bunch of fairly basic questions and just admit "oh by the way i don't know what i'm talking about, can anyone tell me otherwise???" I like how stating to a bunch of people who don't know anything about you that you are not all knowledgeable, and asking questions to better inform yourself and to put things into perspective (for everyone involved) is looked at as a weakness/sign of ignorance. For the record i know a lot about how computers, and linux, work. From the basic transistors and gates, to high level programming constructs. It's just that this particular topic does not interest me, nor will knowing it help me in any way, shape, or form in my life. As for "systemd developers prove they don't know shit, of course its their fault!!!". It is. Shit has happened and their response was "Not my problem"... numerous times. If the people that declared themselves "the grand arch-mages of.. everything", and are forcing their "arch-mag-iness" as "the standard of all and forever", then they are responsible for the problems of "everything". As they say "with great power comes great force times distance over time", or something like that.