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I just wish they'd been more transparent - perhaps a message in the battery section of settings saying "your performance may be impacted because of your degrade

I just wish they'd been more transparent - perhaps a message in the battery section of settings saying "your performance may be impacted because of your degraded battery. It's recommended you replace it" or something. New batteries are $119AU which I think is a reasonable price to pay after two years or so. Everyone knows components in cars need replacing, including batteries, so I think people can be reasoned with in to accepting the same is for consumer goods you want to keep beyond the average phone contract term.

simonblack 9y ago
"I just wish they'd been more transparent " I don't see it as a lack of transparency. That smacks of underhand and fraudulent behaviour. I won't buy another iPhone. In a similar vein, you can no longer move photos from your computer to your iPhone unless you subscribe to the paid Cloud service. iTunes will no longer allow you to do that.
- jackvalentine 9y ago
  OK.
- godelmachine 9y ago
  Since when was this restriction imposed ?
Justin_K 9y ago
119 for a $5 battery is not reasonable.
- jackvalentine 9y ago
  With installation and warranty on the work carried out it's entirely reasonable.
  - Justin_K 9y ago
    That's just bullshit overhead that Apple likes to bake in. How about a removable battery so customers arent screwed every 2 years?
    - jackvalentine 9y ago
      Like a car you're welcome to do it yourself, or take it somewhere else if you think it's a better deal. Edit: just got a quote for an iphone 7+ battery replacement from one of the mall kiosks here: $120. If there is so much fat in the cost surely they'd at least undercut Apple by $20 to get the business. Removable batteries are a completely different conversation but you can still buy phones with them so go ahead and indulge yourself.
      - petecox 9y ago
        I bought a replacement battery kit for my non-Apple phone on ebay for about $AU15 - it came with tools to jimmy open the case and unscrew the housing. Undoubtedly genuine Apple batteries may be better quality but that's still ~$100 for labour.
        jackvalentine 9y ago
        I mean I know this is supposed to be a hacker community and all, but there is no way I'd bother. Housemate did his girlfriend's iPhone 5 and just ruined it. You're not only paying for the labour, but also a guarantee the phone will work as intended after and warranty on the replacement. $100 is cheap for that.
        dozzie 9y ago
        > Housemate did his girlfriend's iPhone 5 and just ruined it. Because it is designed to prevent user from replacing battery, so you pay $100 for opening the lid, taking out the battery, putting in the new one, and closing the lid. $100 is nowhere near cheap for something that should be safe to do for the user.
- narrator 9y ago
  I paid $10 for my brand new Galaxy Note 4 battery and it took 30 seconds to replace. My note 4 isn't slow at all either. It's the end of Moore's law and they are going to start pulling this stuff so you upgrade, because the new phones just aren't that much better. Meanwhile, I'll stick to Note 4s still they stop making them and I can't get them used. Perfect phone, imho.
  - kennydude 9y ago
    Was it an actual Samsung one? Off-brand batteries can be dodgy and not have the correct protection circuitry.
    - narrator 9y ago
      I trusted the 258 reviews at 4 1/2 stars ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072KJRJ45 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072KJRJ45 ). I have had it for 6 months. It works great and I haven't had any problems.

simonblack 9y ago

"I just wish they'd been more transparent " I don't see it as a lack of transparency. That smacks of underhand and fraudulent behaviour. I won't buy another iPhone. In a similar vein, you can no longer move photos from your computer to your iPhone unless you subscribe to the paid Cloud service. iTunes will no longer allow you to do that.

jackvalentine 9y ago
OK.
godelmachine 9y ago
Since when was this restriction imposed ?

Justin_K 9y ago

119 for a $5 battery is not reasonable.

jackvalentine 9y ago
With installation and warranty on the work carried out it's entirely reasonable.
- Justin_K 9y ago
  That's just bullshit overhead that Apple likes to bake in. How about a removable battery so customers arent screwed every 2 years?
  - jackvalentine 9y ago
    Like a car you're welcome to do it yourself, or take it somewhere else if you think it's a better deal. Edit: just got a quote for an iphone 7+ battery replacement from one of the mall kiosks here: $120. If there is so much fat in the cost surely they'd at least undercut Apple by $20 to get the business. Removable batteries are a completely different conversation but you can still buy phones with them so go ahead and indulge yourself.
    - petecox 9y ago
      I bought a replacement battery kit for my non-Apple phone on ebay for about $AU15 - it came with tools to jimmy open the case and unscrew the housing. Undoubtedly genuine Apple batteries may be better quality but that's still ~$100 for labour.
      - jackvalentine 9y ago
        I mean I know this is supposed to be a hacker community and all, but there is no way I'd bother. Housemate did his girlfriend's iPhone 5 and just ruined it. You're not only paying for the labour, but also a guarantee the phone will work as intended after and warranty on the replacement. $100 is cheap for that.
        dozzie 9y ago
        > Housemate did his girlfriend's iPhone 5 and just ruined it. Because it is designed to prevent user from replacing battery, so you pay $100 for opening the lid, taking out the battery, putting in the new one, and closing the lid. $100 is nowhere near cheap for something that should be safe to do for the user.
narrator 9y ago
I paid $10 for my brand new Galaxy Note 4 battery and it took 30 seconds to replace. My note 4 isn't slow at all either. It's the end of Moore's law and they are going to start pulling this stuff so you upgrade, because the new phones just aren't that much better. Meanwhile, I'll stick to Note 4s still they stop making them and I can't get them used. Perfect phone, imho.
- kennydude 9y ago
  Was it an actual Samsung one? Off-brand batteries can be dodgy and not have the correct protection circuitry.
  - narrator 9y ago
    I trusted the 258 reviews at 4 1/2 stars ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072KJRJ45 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072KJRJ45 ). I have had it for 6 months. It works great and I haven't had any problems.