3 ms·

Probably because the filtering is too powerful and accurate? Anyone can get up at 6am to listen to the radio. If you don't show certain people job ads they may

Probably because the filtering is too powerful and accurate? Anyone can get up at 6am to listen to the radio. If you don't show certain people job ads they may never see or know about the listing.

chronic193 9y ago
> Anyone can get up at 6am to listen to the radio. Anyone could lie about their likes/interests or even age on Facebook. What's your point?
avar 9y ago
Anyone can create multiple Facebook profiles of various ages and look at job advertisements, which is both cheaper than subscribing to a bunch of newspapers, and less of a hassle than having to get up at 6 am (in the days before people could easily record the radio).
- paulie_a 9y ago
  Isn't that against tos and potentially a cfaa violation? You are interfering with their platforms ad targeting.
- rcthompson 9y ago
  Age isn't the only filtering criterion, though. Do I need to create a fake account for every combination of age, gender, read, socioeconomic status, etc. if I want to look at all the job ads?
  - rcthompson 9y ago
    (Oops, "read" was supposed to say "race".)
- notzuck 9y ago
  Downvoted and rightly so. Do you think purchasing a few newspapers from the store in the morning is the same thing as having to register multiple accounts on FB just to avoid their age discrimination which you may not be aware is happening in the first place? This also violates their terms of service. How many accounts do I need: one white, one black, one hispanic, one 20 - 30, one 30 - 40?? where does it end? It's unethical developers like you that allows this kind of thing to happen.
  - avar 9y ago
    > Downvoted and rightly so. I don't care about the internet points, but I'd like to point out, account created ~30m ago, that you're using HN the wrong way. Downvoting is not a "I disagree" button like on Reddit, it's a "this is not interesting to discuss" button, the fact that you're replying at all shows that it's not the latter. > Do you think purchasing a few newspapers from[...] No it's certainly not the same, but it is interesting to think about how established precedence for the discretion of advertisers, given their limited money resources and the fact that they have to pick some audience will be applied to social media. > How many accounts do I need: one white, one black, one > hispanic, one 20 - 30, one 30 - 40?? where does it end? How many newspaper subscriptions do you need? What do those cost? I'm just pointing out that there's always been a pay-to-play element to job seeking. In some sense what FB is enabling is shitty, but on the other hand the fee to play has never been lower. > It's unethical developers like you that allows this > kind of thing to happen. I have zero relation to Facebook, and for what it's worth I wish it didn't exist, but if it didn't the next FB clone would just replace it.
    - learc83 9y ago
      >Downvoting is not a "I disagree" button like on Reddit You have it backwards. Everyone might not follow this rule, but reddiquette says "Please don't downvote an otherwise acceptable post because you don't personally like it." While pg thinks it's perfectly fine to use the downvote to express disagreement: "I think it's ok to use the up and down arrows to express agreement. Obviously the uparrows aren't only for applauding politeness, so it seems reasonable that the downarrows aren't only for booing rudeness." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 > the fact that you're replying at all shows that it's not the latter. By that logic you should never reply to someone you downvote.

Probably because the filtering is too powerful and accurate? Anyone can get up at 6am to listen to the radio. If you don't show certain people job ads they may never see or know about the listing.

chronic193 9y ago

> Anyone can get up at 6am to listen to the radio. Anyone could lie about their likes/interests or even age on Facebook. What's your point?

avar 9y ago

Anyone can create multiple Facebook profiles of various ages and look at job advertisements, which is both cheaper than subscribing to a bunch of newspapers, and less of a hassle than having to get up at 6 am (in the days before people could easily record the radio).

paulie_a 9y ago
Isn't that against tos and potentially a cfaa violation? You are interfering with their platforms ad targeting.
rcthompson 9y ago
Age isn't the only filtering criterion, though. Do I need to create a fake account for every combination of age, gender, read, socioeconomic status, etc. if I want to look at all the job ads?
- rcthompson 9y ago
  (Oops, "read" was supposed to say "race".)
notzuck 9y ago
Downvoted and rightly so. Do you think purchasing a few newspapers from the store in the morning is the same thing as having to register multiple accounts on FB just to avoid their age discrimination which you may not be aware is happening in the first place? This also violates their terms of service. How many accounts do I need: one white, one black, one hispanic, one 20 - 30, one 30 - 40?? where does it end? It's unethical developers like you that allows this kind of thing to happen.
- avar 9y ago
  > Downvoted and rightly so. I don't care about the internet points, but I'd like to point out, account created ~30m ago, that you're using HN the wrong way. Downvoting is not a "I disagree" button like on Reddit, it's a "this is not interesting to discuss" button, the fact that you're replying at all shows that it's not the latter. > Do you think purchasing a few newspapers from[...] No it's certainly not the same, but it is interesting to think about how established precedence for the discretion of advertisers, given their limited money resources and the fact that they have to pick some audience will be applied to social media. > How many accounts do I need: one white, one black, one > hispanic, one 20 - 30, one 30 - 40?? where does it end? How many newspaper subscriptions do you need? What do those cost? I'm just pointing out that there's always been a pay-to-play element to job seeking. In some sense what FB is enabling is shitty, but on the other hand the fee to play has never been lower. > It's unethical developers like you that allows this > kind of thing to happen. I have zero relation to Facebook, and for what it's worth I wish it didn't exist, but if it didn't the next FB clone would just replace it.
  - learc83 9y ago
    >Downvoting is not a "I disagree" button like on Reddit You have it backwards. Everyone might not follow this rule, but reddiquette says "Please don't downvote an otherwise acceptable post because you don't personally like it." While pg thinks it's perfectly fine to use the downvote to express disagreement: "I think it's ok to use the up and down arrows to express agreement. Obviously the uparrows aren't only for applauding politeness, so it seems reasonable that the downarrows aren't only for booing rudeness." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 > the fact that you're replying at all shows that it's not the latter. By that logic you should never reply to someone you downvote.