> You're missing the point, I'd guess on purpose. No. You're missing the point: > And there's no reason not to have a competitive element, you don't need prof

> You're missing the point, I'd guess on purpose. No. You're missing the point: > And there's no reason not to have a competitive element, you don't need profit to create competition. This is where you're getting things wrong. We need competition to advance. Resources are limited and we compete for those resources. Competition is a resource-allocation system. Sure, you can advocate for a centrally-planned pipe dream as much as you want, it doesn't work. It has been tried many times before, to horrendous results every single time. > Why do you think a system where people choose the collective good (having all their needs met) - "volunteering" - rather than personal financial gain can't produce satellites, or any other good/technology we now produce? For the same reason that unicorns can't fly: they can't even exist.