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I watched this happen live. There was a very obvious trading software malfunction. Here's what I watched happen. People could place orders before trading start
by dustingetz 9y ago
I watched this happen live. There was a very obvious trading software malfunction. Here's what I watched happen.
People could place orders before trading started. I was watching BCH/USD and BCH/BTC which had a fixed price, $3100 USD and 3.00 BTC respectively.
BCH/USD had a huge amount of buy pressure (people buying BCH with cash); BCH/BTC had a huge amount of sell pressure (people dumping the airdrop).
Only BCH/USD went live; BCH/BTC remained paused. (That was weird, I thought it looked like a human somewhere hit enter too soon, but apparently it was intended)
Once trading started (BCH/USD only), people couldn't place new sell orders. The unlimited buys cleared, including the guy on reddit whose order was "Buy $100000 USD of BTC at market price", which was filled at 6k and then he was unable to place a sell at 9k. Apparently placing buys without limits is common because unlimited buys are filled before limited ones are.
Since you couldn't place a new sell; the price was not bounded; the book cleared and everything was stuck at 9.5k for a couple minutes. There was a little bit of trades, not sure if it was only people with existing orders that were glitched or if maybe some people weren't glitched, maybe all the activity was orders placed before trading opened.
They realized the issue and paused trading; orders began to accumulate again roughly around here; here's a screenshot of the orders accumulating https://i.imgur.com/0NTyYXx.png https://i.imgur.com/0NTyYXx.png There is incredible sell pressure here, the price was obviously out of whack with actual supply/demand.
(MY SPECULATION) Since there was never a functioning market I'd expect Coinbase to rewind all the trades which is what it looks like they are doing.
I might have gotten some of the details wrong, I am just a detached layperson learning about finance who happened to see this go down.
Sorry reddit, no consipiracy here. But none of those posts in r/bitcoin are actual humans anyway, it's all fake bots and a couple poor suckers who don't realize they're arguing with a content farm. Here's some required reading about the bitcoin information manipulation shitshow. https://np.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6rxw7k/informative_btc_vs_bch_articles/dl8v4lp/?st=jaotbt8m&sh=222ce783 https://np.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6rxw7k/infor... TLDR: Nothing is real, everything is fake news, you think it can't possibly be that bad? it's actually worse than that.
- mancerayder 9y agoInteresting stuff, nice write-up! I tried to buy it last night and this morning for the ~3K price, and I was blocked by Coinbase. Now it's past the 4K point. Maybe there's no grand conspiracy, but there's something plasticy about the price movement combined with blocking of new buys at the lower prices (on Coinbase).
- makomk 9y agoI haven't heard any suggestion that they're going to roll back any of the trades that happened, in fact I'm not sure they even can because that money may not even be on the exchange anymore. Their plan seems to be to clear orders, reopen trading again about a day after last attempt (so about now), and hope it goes better this time.
- kooshball 9y agoIs there any evidence they're going to rewind or refund the transactions?
- dustingetz 9y agoNo direct evidence, this is just my speculation maybe i shouldn't have Indirect evidence is them erasing this blip from their tickers Obviously also there are some really angry customers who lost large amounts of cash
- jonknee 9y agoWhy would they? That's the freedom of an unregulated industry, you are free to be robbed.
- rawnlq 9y agoThat reddit link was incredibly informative and worth reading. It finally explains why /r/bitcoin looks like such a meme-driven asylum. All the propaganda, censorship, astroturfing and fake news reminds me of how /r/The_Donald gained support. EDIT: And theymos's reply with the other side of the story https://np.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6rxw7k/informative_btc_vs_bch_articles/dl9ycm5/ https://np.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6rxw7k/infor...
- dustingetz 9y agoYeah it's striking, people behind T_D and r/bitcoin probably hired the same company
- feelix 9y agoThis is an extremely well written piece of (false) propaganda. Going into why would take a long time, and each person who cares and isn't sure will need to do his or her own research. I will note however that people are paid by Roger Ver himself to make comments like this. eg: https://np.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6rxw7k/informative_btc_vs_bch_articles/dlg0vx0/ https://np.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6rxw7k/infor...
- lgats 9y agoI was watching quite closely and can affirm this is exactly what I saw.