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Re: Speaking of talent: Yahoo got best paper at EVERY data-related conference in 2010. No single lab(Google,MS) or university(Stanford etc) has ever done this.

Re: Speaking of talent: Yahoo got best paper at EVERY data-related conference in 2010. No single lab(Google,MS) or university(Stanford etc) has ever done this. Clearly you can achieve this without talent, pg! engineers/hackers don't usually focus on doing academic research and writing academic papers targeted to top-tier academic conferences. Yahoo Research is certainly a leader in the academic world, but that might not translate directly to the quality of Yahoo developers. conversely, take hot start-up X of the moment who is known for having awesome 1337 hackers. how many 'best paper awards' have they probably won in top-tier conferences? probably ZERO, since they're not focused on doing academic research.

blantonl 16y ago
engineers/hackers don't usually focus on doing academic research and writing academic papers targeted to top-tier academic conferences. I am in total agreement with this. These days anything targeted towards top-tier conferences typically has a sales-marketing slant wrapped around it.
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- pgbovine 16y ago
  agreed, well it's because academics have to be good salespeople (i'm not saying that to be demeaning, it's actually a useful skill). professors need to 'sell' their research proposals and visions to funding agencies in order to get multi-million dollar grants. similarly, they need to 'sell' the high-level pitches of their papers to reviewers in ultra-competitive publication venues
venkman2 16y ago
* SIGMOD Best Paper 2009: Available in Hadoop Pig as ILLUSTRATE command * WSDM Best paper 2009: ""Aggregation of News Content Into Web Results"" : Search for "pakistan flood" on Yahoo. * USENIX ATC Best paper 2010: Available as Apache Zookeeper. In other words, Yahoo's research is not only _already_ in production / engineering, it is also open source for the world to use. Note that Google / MSR's papers usually don't release source code.

blantonl 16y ago

engineers/hackers don't usually focus on doing academic research and writing academic papers targeted to top-tier academic conferences. I am in total agreement with this. These days anything targeted towards top-tier conferences typically has a sales-marketing slant wrapped around it.

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pgbovine 16y ago
agreed, well it's because academics have to be good salespeople (i'm not saying that to be demeaning, it's actually a useful skill). professors need to 'sell' their research proposals and visions to funding agencies in order to get multi-million dollar grants. similarly, they need to 'sell' the high-level pitches of their papers to reviewers in ultra-competitive publication venues

venkman2 16y ago

* SIGMOD Best Paper 2009: Available in Hadoop Pig as ILLUSTRATE command * WSDM Best paper 2009: ""Aggregation of News Content Into Web Results"" : Search for "pakistan flood" on Yahoo. * USENIX ATC Best paper 2010: Available as Apache Zookeeper. In other words, Yahoo's research is not only _already_ in production / engineering, it is also open source for the world to use. Note that Google / MSR's papers usually don't release source code.