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Exactly opposite. Last line is not bandwidth limited - FTTH exists. FIOS and even comcast do that. 100 people at 1Gbit/sec to the edge are 100Gbit/sec in the c

Exactly opposite. Last line is not bandwidth limited - FTTH exists. FIOS and even comcast do that. 100 people at 1Gbit/sec to the edge are 100Gbit/sec in the core to content providers. [Edit: Downvoting 2+2 being 4 is stupid] 1 Gbit/sec is easily deliverable at the edge, even if it costs 5 thousand dollars to get it connected. 1 Gbit/sec of non-oversubscribed IP transit is at least $500/mo. A building with 100 apartments would require $50,000 a month in IP transit costs. This does not include costs of the long distance fiber, locations for PNI and gear that can do 48x 100Gbit/sec ports. So your Interwebz is going to cost you either > $600 a month or you get congestion and that congestion would be coming from the core, not from the edge

JoeAltmaier 9y ago
Sure the last mile is arguable - not for me, as I live in the country and DSL is what I get. But we could invest and do better there too. Still its nothing compared to the extortion racket, holding websites hostage .
wtallis 9y ago
You're replying to a comment about the current state of existing infrastructure by talking about the theoretical possibility of new infrastructure that could be deployed with today's technology, but largely isn't being deployed.
- notyourday 9y ago
  That's something that you should bring up with your local government. It is your local government that is blocking roll outs of FTTH. Even at 10Mbit/sec congestion will be at the core. Comcast currently claims to have 22.3 million internet customers. At 10 Mbit/sec it means 223.3 MILLION megabit per second that needed to be handed off to transit. It is not possible.
  - wtallis 9y ago
    > That's something that you should bring up with your local government. It is your local government that is blocking roll outs of FTTH. That's definitely not true in my specific case, and probably isn't true all that often in the general case. Deploying FTTH to existing paying customers who already have halfway decent infrastructure doesn't have a very compelling short-term return on investment even when the local government is doing everything they can to encourage it.
    - notyourday 9y ago
      They are blocking competitors from installing fiber via franchise agreements or requirement that entire municipality is wired. By doing that your municipality is preventing price competition on the physical last mile which means that Comcast has no need to upgrade service.

JoeAltmaier 9y ago

Sure the last mile is arguable - not for me, as I live in the country and DSL is what I get. But we could invest and do better there too. Still its nothing compared to the extortion racket, holding websites hostage .

wtallis 9y ago

You're replying to a comment about the current state of existing infrastructure by talking about the theoretical possibility of new infrastructure that could be deployed with today's technology, but largely isn't being deployed.

notyourday 9y ago
That's something that you should bring up with your local government. It is your local government that is blocking roll outs of FTTH. Even at 10Mbit/sec congestion will be at the core. Comcast currently claims to have 22.3 million internet customers. At 10 Mbit/sec it means 223.3 MILLION megabit per second that needed to be handed off to transit. It is not possible.
- wtallis 9y ago
  > That's something that you should bring up with your local government. It is your local government that is blocking roll outs of FTTH. That's definitely not true in my specific case, and probably isn't true all that often in the general case. Deploying FTTH to existing paying customers who already have halfway decent infrastructure doesn't have a very compelling short-term return on investment even when the local government is doing everything they can to encourage it.
  - notyourday 9y ago
    They are blocking competitors from installing fiber via franchise agreements or requirement that entire municipality is wired. By doing that your municipality is preventing price competition on the physical last mile which means that Comcast has no need to upgrade service.