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The GOP didn't expect us plebs to see through that.

by croon 9y ago

eli_gottlieb 9y ago
I dunno. Given their recent fondness for passing statute at GOP-held level N that preempts statute at non-GOP level N-1, they seem pretty brazen to me. Federalism is out the window, districts are gerrymandered, packing the courts, etc.
pjc50 9y ago
They're in charge. Their supporters will vote for them no matter what so long as the guns and abortion issues are untouched, because they get their news from a parallel system in which this is all presented as a good thing. They don't depend on floating voters because there aren't any.
- wavefunction 9y ago
  The GOP most certainly depends on floating voters. There are many independent/non-affiliated voters in the US, more than either the registered Republican or Democrat voter base. And there were plenty of people who voted for President Obama but voted for Trump. 13% of 2012 Obama voters voted for Trump in 2016. http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/just-how-many-obama-2012-trump-2016-voters-were-there/ http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/just-h... I strongly agree with the rest of your post.
- soundwave106 9y ago
  I don't know, the polls seem to suggest that 3 out of 4 Republicans polled support net neutrality (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/12/12/this-poll-gave-americans-a-detailed-case-for-and-against-the-fccs-net-neutrality-plan-the-reaction-among-republicans-was-striking/?utm_term=.318924241880 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/12/12...). I suppose it boils down to where in the priority list this falls for the average voter. I think you could easily give supporters in this realm, that aren't quite aware of the worst case scenarios people fear about net neutrality repeal, food for thought using news as an example. Comcast for instance owns NBC Universal. If Comcast, often the de facto Internet provider in some areas, decides to favor vertical integration in news and "prioritize their outlets"... let's just say that the news outlets NBC Universal owns tend to be exactly opposite of the "parallel news system" outlets you are talking about. :)

The GOP didn't expect us plebs to see through that.

by croon 9y ago

The GOP didn't expect us plebs to see through that.

I dunno. Given their recent fondness for passing statute at GOP-held level N that preempts statute at non-GOP level N-1, they seem pretty brazen to me. Federalism is out the window, districts are gerrymandered, packing the courts, etc.

pjc50 9y ago

They're in charge. Their supporters will vote for them no matter what so long as the guns and abortion issues are untouched, because they get their news from a parallel system in which this is all presented as a good thing. They don't depend on floating voters because there aren't any.

wavefunction 9y ago
The GOP most certainly depends on floating voters. There are many independent/non-affiliated voters in the US, more than either the registered Republican or Democrat voter base. And there were plenty of people who voted for President Obama but voted for Trump. 13% of 2012 Obama voters voted for Trump in 2016. http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/just-how-many-obama-2012-trump-2016-voters-were-there/ http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/just-h... I strongly agree with the rest of your post.
soundwave106 9y ago
I don't know, the polls seem to suggest that 3 out of 4 Republicans polled support net neutrality (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/12/12/this-poll-gave-americans-a-detailed-case-for-and-against-the-fccs-net-neutrality-plan-the-reaction-among-republicans-was-striking/?utm_term=.318924241880 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/12/12...). I suppose it boils down to where in the priority list this falls for the average voter. I think you could easily give supporters in this realm, that aren't quite aware of the worst case scenarios people fear about net neutrality repeal, food for thought using news as an example. Comcast for instance owns NBC Universal. If Comcast, often the de facto Internet provider in some areas, decides to favor vertical integration in news and "prioritize their outlets"... let's just say that the news outlets NBC Universal owns tend to be exactly opposite of the "parallel news system" outlets you are talking about. :)