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It's pretty wild how far into this we are given that Eich wants to present himself as somehow pro-LGBT for Prop8 support. Perhaps it has been lost to the sands

It's pretty wild how far into this we are given that Eich wants to present himself as somehow pro-LGBT for Prop8 support. Perhaps it has been lost to the sands of time, but it seems curious that this didn't come up as a publicly stated defense while the Mozilla board was contemplating what to do with their total PR disaster out of a corporate office.

BrendanEich 9y ago
Why might that be? You are smart, I think you will figure it out from public info. I’m bound by non-disclosures so cannot say much.
- KirinDave 9y ago
  Your decisions are your own. But trying to suggest that donating for CA's prop-8 was in fact a pro-LGBT act is simply not going work well here. Please stop insulting our collective intelligence suggesting this. If you've changed your mind, or have reasons, or whatever? Great. But trying to suggest that in fact you were a better advocate and steward of LGBT rights while (perhaps unintentionally, perhaps deliberately) suggesting everyone else was wrong in what they wanted? No. You could also just say, "I have changed my mind" or "I have decided this issue is less important to me now" or even maybe, "I thought I was doing the right thing, but in hindsight I chose a bad strategy." A million other phrases that own your actions and don't project onto others.
  - BrendanEich 9y ago
    > trying to suggest that donating for CA's prop-8 was in fact a pro-LGBT act... I suggested no such thing. I said explicitly I was sticking to a previous bargain. Hate on that if you must, but don’t put words in my mouth. At this point you have misread so many declarative statements I’ve made here that I am going to let you have the last word, if you like. But no, I never suggested that. It seems to me you are engaging in faulty logic to cast what I wrote in an either/or. Stopping here.

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It's pretty wild how far into this we are given that Eich wants to present himself as somehow pro-LGBT for Prop8 support. Perhaps it has been lost to the sands

by KirinDave 9y ago

BrendanEich 9y ago
Why might that be? You are smart, I think you will figure it out from public info. I’m bound by non-disclosures so cannot say much.
- KirinDave 9y ago
  Your decisions are your own. But trying to suggest that donating for CA's prop-8 was in fact a pro-LGBT act is simply not going work well here. Please stop insulting our collective intelligence suggesting this. If you've changed your mind, or have reasons, or whatever? Great. But trying to suggest that in fact you were a better advocate and steward of LGBT rights while (perhaps unintentionally, perhaps deliberately) suggesting everyone else was wrong in what they wanted? No. You could also just say, "I have changed my mind" or "I have decided this issue is less important to me now" or even maybe, "I thought I was doing the right thing, but in hindsight I chose a bad strategy." A million other phrases that own your actions and don't project onto others.
  - BrendanEich 9y ago
    > trying to suggest that donating for CA's prop-8 was in fact a pro-LGBT act... I suggested no such thing. I said explicitly I was sticking to a previous bargain. Hate on that if you must, but don’t put words in my mouth. At this point you have misread so many declarative statements I’ve made here that I am going to let you have the last word, if you like. But no, I never suggested that. It seems to me you are engaging in faulty logic to cast what I wrote in an either/or. Stopping here.