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> I constantly see others who have the same beliefs getting accused of being racist Probably because of the massive amount of racist rhetoric used in support o
by TheCoelacanth 9y ago
> I constantly see others who have the same beliefs getting accused of being racist
Probably because of the massive amount of racist rhetoric used in support of that position. It's not an inherently racist position, but when such a large portion of arguments in favor of the position use racist rhetoric it's hard to avoid being lumped in with those arguments.
- ithilglin909 9y agoLumping totally dis-similar arguments together is just intellectually lazy, which is most of my problem with the use of words like "racist, sexist, etc." They have valid applications, but are often used to circumvent rational debate.
- TheCoelacanth 9y agoMost people are intellectually lazy. Better get used to it. If you want your arguments to be consistently distinguished from the racist ones you will have to put in more effort to make them seem more distinct.
- ithilglin909 9y agoYou don't even know what my arguments would be!
- fzeroracer 9y agoAnd to add onto your point there's a lot of nuance in terms of what it means to be against illegal immigration. Some people define it very harshly (toss out everyone that's an immigrant), some people define it as providing avenues for hard-working undocumented immigrants to become US citizens even if they are illegal. So when you come out against illegal immigration, your stance can run the gamut of not racist at all to incredibly racist. It just turns out that most of the time the statistics simply don't line up for illegal immigrants committing more crime, stealing jobs and so forth. Which then makes the argument not about fact, but about feeling. Which then tends to be more inclined towards racism.